# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44746 "2016-06-28T20:33:41Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44747 "2016-06-28T20:34:28Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)

Several of them in fact.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44748 "2016-06-28T20:54:55Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkein)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44749 "2016-06-28T20:57:49Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkein)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)

Numerous maps of Salisbury Plain over time.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44750 "2016-06-28T21:21:15Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkein)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44751 "2016-06-28T22:13:15Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)

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**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44752 "2016-06-28T22:33:13Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Bored of the Rings(Harvard Lampoon)

The valley of the Roi-Tanners and the Bay of Mulhouse being particular favorites. 😃

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**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44753 "2016-06-28T22:37:00Z")

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Oops! Make that Milhous. :smack:

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44754 "2016-06-29T00:13:48Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Hawaii (James Michener)

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44755 "2016-06-29T00:24:48Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Hawaii (James Michener)
8. Watership Down (Richard Adams)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44756 "2016-06-29T01:26:30Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Hawaii (James Michener)
8. Watership Down (Richard Adams)
9. Capt. Kidd’s Cat (Robert Lawson)

A great kid’s book, told from the perspective of the surly black-and-white cat which accompanied the alleged pirate on his ill-fated voyage.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44757 "2016-06-29T03:12:46Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Hawaii (James Michener)
8. Watership Down (Richard Adams)
9. Capt. Kidd’s Cat (Robert Lawson)  
10, Far from the Madding Crowd (Thomas Hardy).

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44758 "2016-06-29T04:29:34Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Hawaii (James Michener)
8. Watership Down (Richard Adams)
9. Capt. Kidd’s Cat (Robert Lawson)  
10, Far from the Madding Crowd (Thomas Hardy).
10. Chronicles of Narnia (C.S. Lewis)

And a shout out to Pauline Baynes who illustrated the maps of Narnia and Middle Earth, from a New Yorker article:  
" J. R. R. Tolkien commissioned Pauline Baynes, who learned mapmaking in the Ministry of Defence during the Second World War, to create maps of his fictional land, Middle Earth: her delicate elven script proclaimed place names, tree-dotted forests and sharp-peaked mountain ranges giving depth to the scenery, and a selection of inserts illustrated some of the architecture, characters, and creatures.

Writing to his publisher in 1949, after receiving some of Baynes’s drawings for “Farmer Giles of Ham,” Tolkien expressed his satisfaction with her art: “They are more than illustrations, they are a collateral theme. I showed them to my friends whose polite comment was that they reduced my text to a commentary on the drawings.” The same could be said for her map of Middle Earth, which influenced the way many readers visualized the imaginary world. Tolkien was so satisfied with her work that he introduced her to his friend C. S. Lewis, for whom she mapped Narnia."

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44759 "2016-06-29T04:58:57Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Hawaii (James Michener)
8. Watership Down (Richard Adams)
9. Capt. Kidd’s Cat (Robert Lawson)
10. Far from the Madding Crowd (Thomas Hardy)
11. Chronicles of Narnia (C.S. Lewis)
12. Tik-Tok of Oz (L. Frank Baum)

This was the first Oz book which was published with Baum’s map of Oz. It (or an updated map) was subsequently included in republications of the earlier books.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44760 "2016-06-29T13:22:15Z")

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Novels with a map (Which is printed in the book itself, not just referred to):

1. With Kitchen Privileges (Louise Andrews Kent)
2. A Feast For Crows (George R.R. Martin)
3. Lord of the Rings (J.R.R. Tolkien)
4. Sarum (Edward Rutherfurd)
5. Bored of the Rings (National Lampoon)
6. Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)
7. Hawaii (James Michener)
8. Watership Down (Richard Adams)
9. Capt. Kidd’s Cat (Robert Lawson)
10. Far from the Madding Crowd (Thomas Hardy)
11. Chronicles of Narnia (C.S. Lewis)
12. Tik-Tok of Oz (L. Frank Baum)
13. The Fifth Season - N.K. Jemisin

Next up: Songs about gamblers

1. Still the Same - Bob Seeger

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44761 "2016-06-29T14:20:17Z")

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Next up: Songs about gamblers

1. Still the Same - Bob Seeger
2. Blackjack - Ray Charles

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44762 "2016-06-29T14:23:50Z")

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Songs about gamblers

1. Still the Same - Bob Seeger
2. Blackjack - Ray Charles
3. The Rambling Gambler – folk song

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44763 "2016-06-29T15:01:32Z")

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Songs about gamblers

1. Still the Same - Bob Seeger
2. Blackjack - Ray Charles
3. The Rambling Gambler – folk song
4. The Gambler - Kenny Rogers

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44764 "2016-06-29T15:07:40Z")

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Songs about gamblers

1. Still the Same - Bob Seger
2. Blackjack - Ray Charles
3. The Rambling Gambler – folk song
4. The Gambler - Kenny Rogers
5. Wind Him Up - Saga

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44765 "2016-06-29T15:14:56Z")

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Songs about gamblers

1. Still the Same - Bob Seger
2. Blackjack - Ray Charles
3. The Rambling Gambler – folk song
4. The Gambler - Kenny Rogers
5. Wind Him Up - Saga
6. Lido Shuffle - Boz Scaggs

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