# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46026 "2016-08-29T13:40:26Z")

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Exellent singer/songwriters with an objectively average-to-poor singing voice.

1. Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree)
2. Cole Porter
3. Bob Dylan
4. Irving Berlin
5. Neil Young
6. Bert Bacharach
7. Tom Waits
8. Paul Williams
9. Lou Reed
10. Paul Simon
11. Herb Alpert
12. Arthur Freed
13. Woody Guthrie

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46027 "2016-08-29T13:42:15Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Green Lantern

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46028 "2016-08-29T13:51:58Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46029 "2016-08-29T14:10:45Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46030 "2016-08-29T15:09:46Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46031 "2016-08-29T15:51:05Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46032 "2016-08-29T16:24:55Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft
7. What Dreams May Come (beautifully shot movie, but I remember nothing about it save the visuals)

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46033 "2016-08-29T16:25:52Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft
7. What Dreams May Come (beautifully shot movie, but I remember nothing about it save the visuals)
8. Speed Racer

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46034 "2016-08-29T16:32:08Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft
7. What Dreams May Come (beautifully shot movie, but I remember nothing about it save the visuals)
8. Speed Racer
9. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

It looked like they tried to compensate for the thin story with too many effects

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46035 "2016-08-29T16:56:13Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft
7. What Dreams May Come (beautifully shot movie, but I remember nothing about it save the visuals)
8. Speed Racer
9. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
10. Godzilla vs Mothra (1964)

Hey, no one said they had to be _good_ special effects!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46036 "2016-08-29T17:03:33Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft
7. What Dreams May Come
8. Speed Racer
9. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
10. Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964)
11. Transformers

Any of them. Robots bash on robots for two hours; nothing changes. Rinse and repeat.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46037 "2016-08-30T11:52:30Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft
7. What Dreams May Come
8. Speed Racer
9. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
10. Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964)
11. Transformers
12. Krull

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46038 "2016-08-30T12:22:41Z")

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13 films where the special effects completely eclipsed the story.

1. Avatar
2. Green Lantern
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Legend
6. Warcraft
7. What Dreams May Come
8. Speed Racer
9. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
10. Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964)
11. Transformers
12. Krull
13. Man Of Steel

Technology is finally at a point where we can really see what Superman can do and it’s all in service of this joyless slog.

Next: Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, _Blazing Saddles_

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46039 "2016-08-30T12:54:27Z")

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Next: Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, _Blazing Saddles_
2. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (“that’s Fronkensteen”), Young Frankenstein

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46040 "2016-08-30T13:08:25Z")

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Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
2. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (“that’s Fronkensteen”), Young Frankenstein
3. Rabbi Avram, The Frisco Kid

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46041 "2016-08-30T13:21:43Z")

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Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
2. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (“that’s Fronkensteen”), Young Frankenstein
3. Rabbi Avram, The Frisco Kid
4. Leopold Bloom, The Producers

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46042 "2016-08-30T14:33:25Z")

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Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
2. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (“that’s Fronkensteen”), Young Frankenstein
3. Rabbi Avram, The Frisco Kid
4. Leopold Bloom, The Producers
5. Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46043 "2016-08-30T14:46:04Z")

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Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
2. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (“that’s Fronkensteen”), Young Frankenstein
3. Rabbi Avram, The Frisco Kid
4. Leopold Bloom, The Producers
5. Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
6. Sigerson Holmes, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes’ Smarter Brother

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46044 "2016-08-30T14:50:43Z")

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Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
2. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (“that’s Fronkensteen”), Young Frankenstein
3. Rabbi Avram, The Frisco Kid
4. Leopold Bloom, The Producers
5. Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
6. Sigerson Holmes, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes’ Smarter Brother
7. George, Silver Streak

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/46045 "2016-08-30T15:27:50Z")

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Gene Wilder’s memorable roles.

1. Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
2. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (“that’s Fronkensteen”), Young Frankenstein
3. Rabbi Avram, The Frisco Kid
4. Leopold Bloom, The Producers
5. Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
6. Sigerson Holmes, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes’ Smarter Brother
7. George, Silver Streak
8. Quackser Fortune, Quackser Fortune Has a Cousin in the Bronx

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