# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47966 "2016-12-02T04:43:07Z")

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People you admire/respect, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you are opposed to.

1. Michael Steele (former Chairman of the Republican National Committee)
2. George McGovern, a genuine war hero and (far as I can tell) a highly decent man
3. George H. W. Bush, Republican President
4. Bart Ehrmann, agnostic (leaning to atheist) New Testament scholar
5. Jimmy Carter, former President
6. Steve Jobs, Apple CEO
7. Glenn Beck
8. John McCain
9. Bob Dole

A genuine war hero with at least a semblance of integrity.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47967 "2016-12-02T06:03:26Z")

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People you admire/respect, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you are opposed to.

1. Michael Steele (former Chairman of the Republican National Committee)
2. George McGovern, a genuine war hero and (far as I can tell) a highly decent man
3. George H. W. Bush, Republican President
4. Bart Ehrmann, agnostic (leaning to atheist) New Testament scholar
5. Jimmy Carter, former President
6. Steve Jobs, Apple CEO
7. Glenn Beck
8. John McCain
9. Bob Dole
10. Derek Jeter

Great player and classy guy. I wish he didn’t play for a team I hated.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47968 "2016-12-02T14:12:50Z")

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People you admire/respect, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you are opposed to.

1. Michael Steele (former Chairman of the Republican National Committee)
2. George McGovern, a genuine war hero and (far as I can tell) a highly decent man
3. George H. W. Bush, Republican President
4. Bart Ehrmann, agnostic (leaning to atheist) New Testament scholar
5. Jimmy Carter, former President
6. Steve Jobs, Apple CEO
7. Glenn Beck
8. John McCain
9. Bob Dole
10. Derek Jeter
11. Condoleeza Rice

Smart, classy lady. I don’t admire her like Muammar Qadaffi did, though.  
I also thought of Bob Dole based on his war hero record but the Viagra commercials were a problem.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47969 "2016-12-02T21:08:46Z")

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People you admire/respect, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you are opposed to.

1. Michael Steele (former Chairman of the Republican National Committee)
2. George McGovern, a genuine war hero and (far as I can tell) a highly decent man
3. George H. W. Bush, Republican President
4. Bart Ehrmann, agnostic (leaning to atheist) New Testament scholar
5. Jimmy Carter, former President
6. Steve Jobs, Apple CEO
7. Glenn Beck
8. John McCain
9. Bob Dole
10. Derek Jeter
11. Condoleeza Rice
12. Richard Wagner

A helluva composer, a loathsome anti-Semite.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47970 "2016-12-02T21:21:18Z")

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People you admire/respect, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you are opposed to.

1. Michael Steele (former Chairman of the Republican National Committee)
2. George McGovern, a genuine war hero and (far as I can tell) a highly decent man
3. George H. W. Bush, Republican President
4. Bart Ehrmann, agnostic (leaning to atheist) New Testament scholar
5. Jimmy Carter, former President
6. Steve Jobs, Apple CEO
7. Glenn Beck
8. John McCain
9. Bob Dole
10. Derek Jeter
11. Condoleeza Rice
12. Richard Wagner
13. T. S. Eliot

Another gifted artist and avowed anti-Semite.

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz

Smug, obvious liberal dad jokes. The fact that I agree with him somehow makes it worse.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47971 "2016-12-02T21:50:58Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47972 "2016-12-02T22:36:23Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore

I agree with his broader point on many issues, but you can’t trust a damned thing he says.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47973 "2016-12-02T22:39:00Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner

I don’t “detest” her, but she annoys me, even though I’m 100% in favor of trans rights.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47974 "2016-12-03T04:51:30Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz

A poor rep for my party. You can be DNC Chair, or you can serve in Congress. You shouldn’t try to do both.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47975 "2016-12-03T15:10:32Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Hugo Chavez

Nothing wrong with socialism, but he handled it rather badly. I was in Venezuela when he led his first coup attampt.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47976 "2016-12-03T17:04:53Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez

(just fixing the numbers)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47977 "2016-12-03T18:19:51Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez
7. Lyndon B. Johnson

A “Flawed Giant” according to one biography. Admirable for his stand on Civil Rights, but a really detestable difficult person to put it mildly.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47978 "2016-12-03T18:49:27Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez
7. Lyndon B. Johnson
8. Woodrow Wilson

Hate his racism, agree about the need for a League of Nations

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47979 "2016-12-03T22:30:12Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez
7. Lyndon B. Johnson
8. Woodrow Wilson
9. Ann Coulter

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47980 "2016-12-03T22:57:31Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez
7. Lyndon B. Johnson
8. Woodrow Wilson
9. Ann Coulter
10. Cotton Mather

A bit of a zealot, but it was high time somebody cleaned out all those witches.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47981 "2016-12-04T00:28:54Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez
7. Lyndon B. Johnson
8. Woodrow Wilson
9. Ann Coulter
10. Cotton Mather
11. Al Gore

“Detest” is kind of strong, but I do find him really annoying.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47982 "2016-12-04T00:58:51Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez
7. Lyndon B. Johnson
8. Woodrow Wilson
9. Ann Coulter
10. Cotton Mather
11. Al Gore
12. Frank Lloyd Wright

A visionary architect but a Grade-A selfish, arrogant asshole.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47983 "2016-12-04T03:03:23Z")

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People you detest, even though they publicly represent/advocate an issue/viewpoint you agree with.

1. Andy Borowitz
2. Bruce Tinsley (“Mallard Fillmore” has never made me laugh)
3. Michael Moore
4. Caitlin Jenner
5. Debbi Wasserman Schultz
6. Hugo Chavez
7. Lyndon B. Johnson
8. Woodrow Wilson
9. Ann Coulter
10. Cotton Mather
11. Al Gore
12. Frank Lloyd Wright
13. Henry Ford - A visionary anti-semite

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Movie title that makes you want to see the movie based on the title alone

1. There Will Be Blood

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47984 "2016-12-04T04:10:10Z")

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Movie title that makes you want to see the movie based on the title alone

1. There Will Be Blood
2. The Greatest Story Ever Told

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/47985 "2016-12-04T04:20:26Z")

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Movie title that makes you want to see the movie based on the title alone

1. There Will Be Blood
2. The Greatest Story Ever Told
3. Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter

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