# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 248

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4941 "2011-04-18T22:04:00Z")

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Presidential “Other Women” (name the woman and the president)

1. Nan Britton/Warren G. Harding
2. Monica Lewinsky/Bill Clinton
3. Marilyn Monroe/John Kennedy
4. Sally Hemings - Thomas Jefferson
5. Kay Summersby- Dwight Eisenhower
6. Lucy Page Mercer Rutherfurd - Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
7. Maria Halpin - Grover Cleveland
8. Miss Lehand- Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
9. [Mary Allen Hulbert](http://www.libertymagazine.com/presidential_hulbert.htm) – Woodrow Wilson
10. Mary Pinchot Meyer - John F Kennedy

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4942 "2011-04-19T00:34:54Z")

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Presidential “Other Women” (name the woman and the president)

1. Nan Britton/Warren G. Harding
2. Monica Lewinsky/Bill Clinton
3. Marilyn Monroe/John Kennedy
4. Sally Hemings - Thomas Jefferson
5. Kay Summersby- Dwight Eisenhower
6. Lucy Page Mercer Rutherfurd - Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
7. Maria Halpin - Grover Cleveland
8. Miss Lehand- Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
9. [Mary Allen Hulbert](http://www.libertymagazine.com/presidential_hulbert.htm) – Woodrow Wilson
10. Mary Pinchot Meyer - John F Kennedy
11. Maria Cosway- Thomas Jefferson

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4943 "2011-04-19T01:16:13Z")

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Presidential “Other Women” (name the woman and the president)

1. Nan Britton/Warren G. Harding
2. Monica Lewinsky/Bill Clinton
3. Marilyn Monroe/John Kennedy
4. Sally Hemings - Thomas Jefferson
5. Kay Summersby- Dwight Eisenhower
6. Lucy Page Mercer Rutherfurd - Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
7. Maria Halpin - Grover Cleveland
8. Miss Lehand- Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
9. Mary Allen Hulbert – Woodrow Wilson
10. Mary Pinchot Meyer - John F. Kennedy
11. Maria Cosway- Thomas Jefferson
12. Judith Campbell Exner - John F. Kennedy

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4944 "2011-04-19T01:59:33Z")

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Presidential “Other Women” (name the woman and the president)

1. Nan Britton/Warren G. Harding
2. Monica Lewinsky/Bill Clinton
3. Marilyn Monroe/John Kennedy
4. Sally Hemings - Thomas Jefferson
5. Kay Summersby- Dwight Eisenhower
6. Lucy Page Mercer Rutherfurd - Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
7. Maria Halpin - Grover Cleveland
8. Miss Lehand- Franklin Delano Roosevelt\*
9. Mary Allen Hulbert – Woodrow Wilson
10. Mary Pinchot Meyer - John F. Kennedy
11. Maria Cosway- Thomas Jefferson
12. Judith Campbell Exner - John F. Kennedy
13. Sally Fairfax- George Washington

Right to name new category passed to first taker.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4945 "2011-04-19T02:48:16Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4946 "2011-04-19T02:50:43Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. murder of crows

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4947 "2011-04-19T03:25:18Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. murder of crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.

I thought it was ‘Parliament of Rooks’ - never heard it used for Owls.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4948 "2011-04-19T03:30:46Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines  
(IIRC it is a Building of Rooks)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4949 "2011-04-19T03:33:49Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An exaltation of larks

BTW, George Washington flirted with Sally Fairfax, but there’s no evidence to show that she was ever his mistress (as most if not all of the other women mentioned in that round were, for their respective Presidents).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4950 "2011-04-19T04:17:32Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4951 "2011-04-19T04:37:04Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An Exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes
7. A Siege of Bitterns

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4952 "2011-04-19T04:42:26Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. A Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An Exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes
7. A Siege of Bitterns
8. A Smack of Jellyfish

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4953 "2011-04-19T04:52:52Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. A Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An Exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes
7. A Siege of Bitterns
8. A Smack of Jellyfish
9. A Tower of Giraffes

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4954 "2011-04-19T11:50:29Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. A Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An Exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes
7. A Siege of Bitterns
8. A Smack of Jellyfish
9. A Tower of Giraffes
10. A Pride of Lions

According to Wiki - _Collective nouns for rooks include building, parliament, clamour and storytelling._ I did not know that.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4955 "2011-04-19T13:07:12Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. A Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An Exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes
7. A Siege of Bitterns
8. A Smack of Jellyfish
9. A Tower of Giraffes
10. A Pride of Lions
11. A Pod of Whales

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4956 "2011-04-19T13:55:53Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. A Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An Exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes
7. A Siege of Bitterns
8. A Smack of Jellyfish
9. A Tower of Giraffes
10. A Pride of Lions
11. A Pod of Whales
12. Implausibility of Gnus

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4957 "2011-04-19T14:15:31Z")

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Interesting names for a Group of Animals

1. Parliament of Owls
2. A Murder of Crows
3. An Unkindness of Ravens.
4. A Prickle of Porcupines
5. An Exaltation of larks
6. A Rhumba of Rattlesnakes
7. A Siege of Bitterns
8. A Smack of Jellyfish
9. A Tower of Giraffes
10. A Pride of Lions
11. A Pod of Whales
12. Implausibility of Gnus
13. A Bellowing of Bulfinches

New List: Favorite Lines from Obscure Novels

1. “I’ll squck yur thrug till all yu can whupple is geep!” - James Thurber - The Wonderful O

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4958 "2011-04-19T14:19:46Z")

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Favorite Lines from Obscure Novels

1. “I’ll squck yur thrug till all yu can whupple is geep!” - James Thurber - The Wonderful O
2. “He was in the next room mixing my favourite drink; I call it ‘the top shelf in a pail’.” - Paul Quarrington - The Life of Hope.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4959 "2011-04-19T15:03:09Z")

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Favorite Lines from Obscure Novels

1. “I’ll squck yur thrug till all yu can whupple is geep!” - James Thurber - The Wonderful O
2. “He was in the next room mixing my favourite drink; I call it ‘the top shelf in a pail’.” - Paul Quarrington - The Life of Hope.
3. His dear mother in Boston had given him the middle name of Jellicle, after the Jellicle Cats in T.S. Elliot’s _Old Possum’s Book of Practcal Cats_, which she’d read long before Andrew Lloyd Webber was even a gillmer in an Englishman’s eye. - Ed McBain - Downtown

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4960 "2011-04-19T17:38:08Z")

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Favorite Lines from Obscure Novels

1. “I’ll squck yur thrug till all yu can whupple is geep!” - James Thurber - The Wonderful O
2. “He was in the next room mixing my favourite drink; I call it ‘the top shelf in a pail’.” - Paul Quarrington - The Life of Hope.
3. His dear mother in Boston had given him the middle name of Jellicle, after the Jellicle Cats in T.S. Elliot’s _Old Possum’s Book of Practcal Cats_, which she’d read long before Andrew Lloyd Webber was even a gillmer in an Englishman’s eye. - Ed McBain - Downtown
4. “The water is singing the Hallelujah Chorus.” Sex & Sunsets, Tim Sandlin

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