# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2560
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51186 "2017-04-10T06:27:53Z")
Famous people commonly known by first initial, middle and last name. 1. F. Scott FitzGerald (Francis) 2. L. Frank Baum (Lyman) 3. F. Murray Abraham (He’s faking it. His first name is Murray.) 4. J. Edgar Hoover (John) 5. F. Lee Bailey (Francis) 6. C. Everett Koop (Charles) 7. R. Lee Ermey (Ronald) ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51187 "2017-04-10T06:31:59Z")
Famous people commonly known by first initial, middle and last name. 1. F. Scott FitzGerald (Francis) 2. L. Frank Baum (Lyman) 3. F. Murray Abraham (He’s faking it. His first name is Murray.) 4. J. Edgar Hoover (John) 5. F. Lee Bailey (Francis) 6. C. Everett Koop (Charles) 7. R. Lee Ermey (Ronald) 8. E. Power Biggs (Edward) ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51188 "2017-04-10T06:40:39Z")
Famous people commonly known by first initial, middle and last name. 1. F. Scott FitzGerald (Francis) 2. L. Frank Baum (Lyman) 3. F. Murray Abraham (He’s faking it. His first name is Murray.) 4. J. Edgar Hoover (John) 5. F. Lee Bailey (Francis) 6. C. Everett Koop (Charles) 7. R. Lee Ermey (Ronald) 8. E. Power Biggs (Edward) 9. S. Epatha Merkerson (Sharon) ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51189 "2017-04-10T08:42:21Z")
Famous people commonly known by first initial, middle and last name. 1. F. Scott FitzGerald (Francis) 2. L. Frank Baum (Lyman) 3. F. Murray Abraham (He’s faking it. His first name is Murray.) 4. J. Edgar Hoover (John) 5. F. Lee Bailey (Francis) 6. C. Everett Koop (Charles) 7. R. Lee Ermey (Ronald) 8. E. Power Biggs (Edward) 9. S. Epatha Merkerson (Sharon) 10. L. Ron Hubbard (Lafayette) ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51190 "2017-04-10T11:39:57Z")
Famous people commonly known by first initial, middle and last name. 1. F. Scott FitzGerald (Francis) 2. L. Frank Baum (Lyman) 3. F. Murray Abraham (He’s faking it. His first name is Murray.) 4. J. Edgar Hoover (John) 5. F. Lee Bailey (Francis) 6. C. Everett Koop (Charles) 7. R. Lee Ermey (Ronald) 8. E. Power Biggs (Edward) 9. S. Epatha Merkerson (Sharon) 10. L. Ron Hubbard (Lafayette) 11. G. Gordon Liddy (George) ---
**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51191 "2017-04-10T11:46:25Z")
Famous people commonly known by first initial, middle and last name. 1. F. Scott FitzGerald (Francis) 2. L. Frank Baum (Lyman) 3. F. Murray Abraham (He’s faking it. His first name is Murray.) 4. J. Edgar Hoover (John) 5. F. Lee Bailey (Francis) 6. C. Everett Koop (Charles) 7. R. Lee Ermey (Ronald) 8. E. Power Biggs (Edward) 9. S. Epatha Merkerson (Sharon) 10. L. Ron Hubbard (Lafayette) 11. G. Gordon Liddy (George) 12. J. Paul Getty (Jean) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51192 "2017-04-10T11:52:07Z")
Famous people commonly known by first initial, middle and last name. 1. F. Scott FitzGerald (Francis) 2. L. Frank Baum (Lyman) 3. F. Murray Abraham (He’s faking it. His first name is Murray.) 4. J. Edgar Hoover (John) 5. F. Lee Bailey (Francis) 6. C. Everett Koop (Charles) 7. R. Lee Ermey (Ronald) 8. E. Power Biggs (Edward) 9. S. Epatha Merkerson (Sharon) 10. L. Ron Hubbard (Lafayette) 11. G. Gordon Liddy (George) 12. J. Paul Getty (Jean) 13. H. Rider Haggard (Henry) New topic: Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51193 "2017-04-10T12:23:33Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51194 "2017-04-10T12:48:37Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51195 "2017-04-10T13:25:54Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) 4. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51196 "2017-04-10T14:00:17Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) 4. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) 5. Arabian Prince (one of the founding members of NWA but they barely acknowledged his existence in the movie) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51197 "2017-04-10T14:02:18Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) 4. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) 5. Arabian Prince (one of the founding members of NWA but they barely acknowledged his existence in the movie) 6. Stu Sutcliffe ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51198 "2017-04-10T14:16:55Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) 4. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) 5. Arabian Prince (one of the founding members of NWA but they barely acknowledged his existence in the movie) 6. Stu Sutcliffe 7. Dave Mustaine - original lead guitarist for Metallica went on to form Megadeth. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51199 "2017-04-10T14:22:51Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) 4. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) 5. Arabian Prince (one of the founding members of NWA but they barely acknowledged his existence in the movie) 6. Stu Sutcliffe 7. Dave Mustaine - original lead guitarist for Metallica went on to form Megadeth. 8. Michael Steele (Bassist for the Runaways, later joined the Bangles) ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51200 "2017-04-10T14:29:25Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom > > 1. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) I think you mean Robert Fleischman. Greg Rolie remained a member Journey and a co-lead singer even after the addition of Steve Perry until his departure in 1980, which was well into their “stardom”. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51201 "2017-04-10T14:37:44Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) 4. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) 5. Arabian Prince (one of the founding members of NWA but they barely acknowledged his existence in the movie) 6. Stu Sutcliffe 7. Dave Mustaine - original lead guitarist for Metallica went on to form Megadeth. 8. Michael Steele (Bassist for the Runaways, later joined the Bangles) 9. Chad Channing - original Nirvana drummer, he must shake his head every day… ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51202 "2017-04-10T15:07:57Z")
Musicians Who Left (or Were Booted From) Bands on the Verge of Stardom 1. Pete Best (too obvious, but had to be done) 2. John Rutsey, 1st Rush drummer 3. Tony Chapman (Rolling Stones drummer) 4. Gregg Rolie (Original Journey lead singer) 5. Arabian Prince (one of the founding members of NWA but they barely acknowledged his existence in the movie) 6. Stu Sutcliffe 7. Dave Mustaine - original lead guitarist for Metallica went on to form Megadeth. 8. Michael Steele (Bassist for the Runaways, later joined the Bangles) 9. Chad Channing - original Nirvana drummer, he must shake his head every day… 10. Peter Gabriel, Genesis ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51203 "2017-04-10T15:46:47Z")
Huh. I thought Genesis was hugely successful with Peter Gabriel. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51204 "2017-04-10T16:16:12Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Huh. I thought Genesis was hugely successful with Peter Gabriel. It is not specified whether it was the band or the musician that was on the verge of stardom. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51205 "2017-04-10T17:26:12Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Huh. I thought Genesis was hugely successful with Peter Gabriel. > [@jtur88](#): > > It is not specified whether it was the band or the musician that was on the verge of stardom. It’s implied that it’s the band. I did a double-take on that one too. Genesis was certainly popular with Gabriel, but not as commercially successful as with Phil on lead vocals. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2559) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2561)