# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2584
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51666 "2017-04-28T01:10:18Z")
Songs that mention a brand name or model name. 1. Cheeseburger in Paradise - Jimmy Buffett: Heinz 57 2. “TiK ToK” - Kesha - Jack Daniel’s 3. “Institutionalized” - Suicidal Tendencies - Pepsi 4. “America”, Simon and Garfunkel - Mrs. Wagner’s (pies) 5. Rum & Coca-Cola - Andrews Sisters 6. Beep Beep - The Playmates - Cadillac 7. “A Rose and a Baby Ruth”. George Hamilton IV 8. “Eat It” - Weird Al Yankovic - “Raisin Bran” among others. 9. “Unknown Legend” - Neil Young - Harley-Davidson 10. “Parents Just Don’t Understand” by DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince (Porsche and McDonald’s) 11. “American Pie” - Don McLean - Chevy 12. “Fun, Fun, Fun” - Beach Boys - T Bird 13. “Take Me Out to the Ball Game” - Jack Norworth & Albert Von Tilzer - Cracker Jack Next: Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51667 "2017-04-28T01:14:30Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51668 "2017-04-28T01:22:26Z")
Looks like I got ninja’d, let’s make it a two-fer. Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51669 "2017-04-28T01:48:13Z")
I’m not even going to try with Tapatalk. Please edit me in. Sent from my XT1635-02 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51670 "2017-04-28T01:49:28Z")
Yusuf Islam,  Cat Stevens. Sent from my XT1635-02 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51671 "2017-04-28T02:58:43Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay –\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor –\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam –\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince –\> [the unpronouceable “Love Symbol #2”](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Prince_logo.svg/870px-Prince_logo.svg.png) … eventually even Prince realized it was an awful idea. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51672 "2017-04-28T03:04:54Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette And then changed it back again. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51673 "2017-04-28T03:11:26Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > … eventually even Prince realized it was an awful idea. It was a contractual dispute. He owed an album to the label and didn’t want to do it. So he decided that if he renamed himself he was forming a new act, which was free to sign a contract with a different label. The same way that the Rolling Stones might have a contract with one label but Mick Jagger might sign a contract with a different label. So Prince essentially told the studio _“Prince owes you his next album. But this album is being made by Love Symbol #2.”_ (Which is what that weird thing was officially called.) My understanding is that it didn’t hold up in court and Prince got out of his contract by more conventional means, at which time he switched his name back. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51674 "2017-04-28T03:12:42Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51675 "2017-04-28T03:34:43Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51676 "2017-04-28T04:37:33Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret 5. butterfly and caterpillar ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51677 "2017-04-28T08:30:17Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret 5. butterfly and caterpillar 6. Fox and kit Couldn’t think of any examples for the first list, so I just evened them out. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51678 "2017-04-28T10:26:36Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp 7. Lloyd Free --\> World B. Free Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret 5. butterfly and caterpillar 6. Fox and kit 7. Oyster and spat ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51679 "2017-04-28T12:12:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It was a contractual dispute. He owed an album to the label and didn’t want to do it. So he decided that if he renamed himself he was forming a new act, which was free to sign a contract with a different label. The same way that the Rolling Stones might have a contract with one label but Mick Jagger might sign a contract with a different label. So Prince essentially told the studio _“Prince owes you his next album. But this album is being made by Love Symbol #2.”_ (Which is what that weird thing was officially called.) My understanding is that it didn’t hold up in court and Prince got out of his contract by more conventional means, at which time he switched his name back. I deliberately did not go into detail but I’m sorry but this is not even close what happened. 1st, he changed his name almost 2 years AFTER _Love Symbol #2_ was released. The dispute was not about any albums being owed to Warner Bros… In fact, it was the opposite. He rebelled against their strict scheduling control of his music… He wanted to release his music as soon as it was ready, including whole backlog of 500 songs. Warner Bros. prevented that because they thought it would saturate the market. It was NOT an attempt to get out of his contract, it was to make things difficult for their media, marketing, printing, etc… ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51680 "2017-04-28T12:22:11Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp 7. Lloyd Free --\> World B. Free 8. Leaf/Joaquin Phoenix Animal parents and their young 9. Kangaroo and joey 10. Goat and kid 11. Frog and tadpole 12. hare and leveret 13. butterfly and caterpillar 14. Fox and kit 15. Oyster and spat 16. Cob/pen and cygnet ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51681 "2017-04-28T14:23:09Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp 7. Lloyd Free --\> World B. Free 8. Leaf/Joaquin Phoenix 9. Roseanne Barr --\> Roseanne Arnold Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret 5. butterfly and caterpillar 6. Fox and kit 7. Oyster and spat 8. Cob/pen and cygnet 9. Cat and kitten ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51682 "2017-04-28T14:36:09Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp 7. Lloyd Free --\> World B. Free 8. Leaf/Joaquin Phoenix 9. Roseanne Barr --\> Roseanne Arnold 10. Dwayne Johnson --\> Rocky Maiavia --\> The Rock --\> Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson --\> Dwayne Johnson Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret 5. butterfly and caterpillar 6. Fox and kit 7. Oyster and spat 8. Cob/pen and cygnet 9. Cat and kitten 10. Duck and duckling ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51683 "2017-04-28T16:36:08Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > 1st, he changed his name almost 2 years AFTER _Love Symbol #2_ was released. How does that refute anything? Prince used the symbol as the title for an album in 1992 and copyrighted the symbol as Love Symbol #2. He then adopted the symbol as his name in 1993. > [@Sparky812](#): > > The dispute was not about any albums being owed to Warner Bros… In fact, it was the opposite. He rebelled against their strict scheduling control of his music… He wanted to release his music as soon as it was ready, including whole backlog of 500 songs. Warner Bros. prevented that because they thought it would saturate the market. > > It was NOT an attempt to get out of his contract, it was to make things difficult for their media, marketing, printing, etc… I didn’t go into the details either. But I don’t see much difference between what I wrote and what you wrote other than the words we used. I was explaining that the reason Prince changed his name wasn’t just some personal whim that he later decided was a bad idea. He did it because he was unhappy with Warner Bros and he did it to make things difficult for him. He changed his name back after his contract with Warner Bros ended and he had signed with Arista. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51684 "2017-04-28T16:38:14Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp 7. Lloyd Free --\> World B. Free 8. Leaf/Joaquin Phoenix 9. Roseanne Barr --\> Roseanne Arnold 10. Dwayne Johnson --\> Rocky Maiavia --\> The Rock --\> Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson --\> Dwayne Johnson 11. Johnny Rotten --\> John Lydon Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret 5. butterfly and caterpillar 6. Fox and kit 7. Oyster and spat 8. Cob/pen and cygnet 9. Cat and kitten 10. Duck and duckling 11. Horse and foal ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51685 "2017-04-28T16:54:54Z")
Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous. 1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali 2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens 4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2” 5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette 6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp 7. Lloyd Free --\> World B. Free 8. Leaf/Joaquin Phoenix 9. Roseanne Barr --\> Roseanne Arnold 10. Dwayne Johnson --\> Rocky Maiavia --\> The Rock --\> Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson --\> Dwayne Johnson 11. Johnny Rotten --\> John Lydon 12. David Johansen/Buster Poindexter Animal parents and their young 1. Kangaroo and joey 2. Goat and kid 3. Frog and tadpole 4. hare and leveret 5. butterfly and caterpillar 6. Fox and kit 7. Oyster and spat 8. Cob/pen and cygnet 9. Cat and kitten 10. Duck and duckling 11. Horse and foal 12. Lioness and cub [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2583) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2585)