# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2585

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51686 "2017-04-28T18:04:08Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> How does that refute anything? Prince used the symbol as the title for an album in 1992 and copyrighted the symbol as Love Symbol #2. He then adopted the symbol as his name in 1993.
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> I didn’t go into the details either. But I don’t see much difference between what I wrote and what you wrote other than the words we used. I was explaining that the reason Prince changed his name wasn’t just some personal whim that he later decided was a bad idea. He did it because he was unhappy with Warner Bros and he did it to make things difficult for him. He changed his name back after his contract with Warner Bros ended and he had signed with Arista.

Meh, if you don’t see the distinction then I don’t think I can make it any clearer to you.

Anyway, Prince himself conceded that changing his name to an unpronounceable symbol was not the greatest decision causing people to refer to him as “The Artist Formerly Known as Prince”(TAFKAP) or simply “The Artist” which he was not fond of.

FTR, he left WB in 1996 and signed with Arista in 1999 and released several albums under the Love Symbol #2 moniker before changing his name back to Prince in 2000.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51687 "2017-04-28T18:28:54Z")

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Celebrities who changed their names _after_ becoming famous.

1. Cassius Clay --\> Muhammad Ali
2. Lew Alcindor --\> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Yusuf Islam --\> Cat Stevens
4. Prince --\> the unpronounceable “Love Symbol #2”
5. Courtney Cox --\> Courtney Cox Arquette
6. John Cougar --\> John Mellencamp
7. Lloyd Free --\> World B. Free
8. Leaf/Joaquin Phoenix
9. Roseanne Barr --\> Roseanne Arnold
10. Dwayne Johnson --\> Rocky Maiavia --\> The Rock --\> Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson --\> Dwayne Johnson
11. Johnny Rotten --\> John Lydon
12. David Johansen/Buster Poindexter
13. Robin Wright --\> Robin Wright Penn --\> Robin Wright

Animal parents and their young

1. Kangaroo and joey
2. Goat and kid
3. Frog and tadpole
4. hare and leveret
5. butterfly and caterpillar
6. Fox and kit
7. Oyster and spat
8. Cob/pen and cygnet
9. Cat and kitten
10. Duck and duckling
11. Horse and foal
12. Lioness and cub
13. Falcon and eyas

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51688 "2017-04-28T18:32:55Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. Webcrawler

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51689 "2017-04-28T18:39:54Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51690 "2017-04-28T18:58:36Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51691 "2017-04-28T18:59:00Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51692 "2017-04-28T19:00:15Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51693 "2017-04-28T19:02:54Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51694 "2017-04-28T19:35:03Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile
7. Lycos

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51695 "2017-04-28T22:53:34Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile
7. Lycos
8. Magellan

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51696 "2017-04-28T23:15:51Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile
7. Lycos
8. Magellan
9. AOL Search

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51697 "2017-04-29T02:05:17Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile
7. Lycos
8. Magellan
9. AOL Search
10. Infoseek

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51698 "2017-04-29T03:55:51Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile
7. Lycos
8. Magellan
9. AOL Search
10. Infoseek
11. Northern Light

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51699 "2017-04-29T04:03:50Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile
7. Lycos
8. Magellan
9. AOL Search
10. Infoseek
11. Northern Light
12. W3Catalog

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51700 "2017-04-29T20:49:03Z")

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“Ancient” Web Search engines (before Yahoo, Bing, Google)

1. WebCrawler
2. Excite
3. AltaVista
4. MetaCrawler
5. Ask Jeeves
6. Dog Pile
7. Lycos
8. Magellan
9. AOL Search
10. Infoseek
11. Northern Light
12. W3Catalog
13. HotBot  
Pass

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51701 "2017-04-29T20:50:23Z")

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New category

Famous or not-so famous people who are left-handed

1. Barack Obama

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51702 "2017-04-29T20:56:36Z")

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Famous or not-so famous people who are left-handed

1. Barack Obama
2. Bill Clinton

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51703 "2017-04-29T21:03:56Z")

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Famous or not-so famous people who are left-handed

1. Barack Obama
2. Bill Clinton
3. Paul Simon

“…nearly branded/A Communist 'cause I’m left-handed./That’s the hand to use!/Well, never mind…”

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51704 "2017-04-29T21:06:54Z")

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Famous or not-so famous people who are left-handed

1. Barack Obama
2. Bill Clinton
3. Paul Simon
4. Colin Mochrie

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/51705 "2017-04-29T21:28:06Z")

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Famous or not-so famous people who are left-handed

1. Barack Obama
2. Bill Clinton
3. Paul Simon
4. Colin Mochrie
5. Matt Groening

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