# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5361 "2011-05-12T01:15:28Z")

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Speakers of the U.S. House of Representatives

1. Sam Rayburn
2. Tip O’Neill
3. John Boehner  
4, Newt Gingrich
4. Tom Foley
5. Frederick Muhlenberg
6. Nancy Pelosi
7. William B. Bankhead
8. Henry Clay
9. Joe Cannon
10. John W. McCormack
11. Galusha Grow
12. James Polk

New category: Official languages of India

1. Bengali

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5362 "2011-05-12T01:22:36Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5363 "2011-05-12T01:23:38Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5364 "2011-05-12T01:25:28Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5365 "2011-05-12T01:28:52Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5366 "2011-05-12T02:47:55Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu
6. Malayalam

Bonus – it’s a palindrome!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5367 "2011-05-12T03:49:53Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu
6. Malayalam
7. Mizo

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5368 "2011-05-12T08:35:16Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu
6. Malayalam
7. Mizo
8. Tamil

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5369 "2011-05-12T11:15:24Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Other times we assume that **Civil War Battles that did not involve Robert E. Lee** signifies without further address that it is specifically the U.S. Civil War as Lee did not participate in any other, that _Civil War_ is capitalized (thus a specific civil war and not civil wars in general). Had the category been _Civil War Victories by Roundheads_ I think most Dopers would have known without qualification it was a reference to the English Civil War, the only other civil war I can think of off hand fought in a country where English is the first language; Canada hasn’t had a proclaimed Civil War yet (though there’s still plenty of time and I here Saskatchewan is planning something) but books have been written on its significance in the U.S. Civil War and I’d wager if a Canadian heard the term “Civil War movie” they’d think Lincoln before they thought Cromwell. Had it been “Battles in the Bolivian Civil War” I think it just would have set there for a few days.

Lee served with distinction in the Mexican War, both as an aide to Gen. Winfoeld Scott,  
and on the battle field, suffering at least one wound. I believe he was a Captain at the  
start of the war; he ended it as a brevet Colonel.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5370 "2011-05-12T13:01:21Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu
6. Malayalam
7. Mizo
8. Tamil
9. Gujarati

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5371 "2011-05-12T13:10:43Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu
6. Malayalam
7. Mizo
8. Tamil
9. Gujarati
10. Oriya

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5372 "2011-05-12T16:26:32Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu
6. Malayalam
7. Mizo
8. Tamil
9. Gujarati
10. Oriya
11. Assamese

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5373 "2011-05-12T17:20:01Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali

2. Hindi

3. English

4. Marathi

5. Urdu

6. Malayalam

7. Mizo

8. Tamil

9. Gujarati

10. Oriya

11. Assamese

12. Nepalese  
Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

13. Richard I “The Lionhearted”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5374 "2011-05-12T17:28:47Z")

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Official languages of India

1. Bengali
2. Hindi
3. English
4. Marathi
5. Urdu
6. Malayalam
7. Mizo
8. Tamil
9. Gujarati
10. Oriya
11. Assamese
12. Nepalese
13. French

Just to close out the category. (And, yes, French is one of India’s official languages.)

Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

1. Richard I “The Lionhearted”
2. Harold Godwinson

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5375 "2011-05-12T17:31:24Z")

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Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

1. Richard I “The Lionhearted”
2. Harold Godwinson
3. James IV of Scotland

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5376 "2011-05-12T17:49:13Z")

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Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

1. Richard I “The Lionhearted”
2. Harold Godwinson
3. James IV of Scotland
4. Harald “Hardrada” (of Norway, fell vs Harold Godwinson at Stamfordbrdige 19 days before Hastings)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5377 "2011-05-12T18:00:42Z")

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Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

1. Richard I “The Lionhearted”
2. Harold Godwinson
3. James IV of Scotland
4. Harald “Hardrada” (of Norway, fell vs Harold Godwinson at Stamfordbrdige 19 days before Hastings)
5. Sigeberht

King of East Anglia, who didn’t even want to fight: [Sigeberht of East Anglia - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigeberht_of_East_Anglia)

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5378 "2011-05-12T18:05:19Z")

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Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

1. Richard I “The Lionhearted”
2. Harold Godwinson
3. James IV of Scotland
4. Harald “Hardrada” (of Norway, fell vs Harold Godwinson at Stamfordbrdige 19 days before Hastings)
5. Sigeberht

King of East Anglia, who didn’t even want to fight: [Sigeberht of East Anglia - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigeberht_of_East_Anglia)

1. Carl XII of Sweden (google him for photos of his still-preserved skull showing the fatal bullet wound)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5379 "2011-05-12T18:25:18Z")

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Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

1. Richard I “The Lionhearted”
2. Harold Godwinson
3. James IV of Scotland
4. Harald “Hardrada” (of Norway, fell vs Harold Godwinson at Stamfordbrdige 19 days before Hastings)
5. Sigeberht of East Anglia
6. Carl XII of Sweden
7. Indulf, King of the Scots

> **[Indulf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulf)**
>
> Ildulb mac Causantín, anglicised as Indulf or Indulph, nicknamed An Ionsaighthigh, "the Aggressor" (died 962) was king of Alba from 954 to 962. He was the son of Constantine II; his mother may have been a daughter of Earl Eadulf I of Bernicia, who was an exile in Scotland.
> Indulf was probably baptised in 927. According to William of Malmesbury, Æthelstan stood godfather to a son of Constantine at the Church of Dacre. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle dates the meeting of Æthelstan with the northern k...

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5380 "2011-05-12T18:25:52Z")

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Royalty killed or mortally wounded in battle.

1. Richard I “The Lionhearted”
2. Harold Godwinson
3. James IV of Scotland
4. Harald “Hardrada” (of Norway, fell vs Harold Godwinson at Stamfordbrdige 19 days before Hastings)
5. Sigeberht, King of East Anglia, who didn’t even want to fight
6. Carl XII of Sweden (google him for photos of his still-preserved skull showing the fatal bullet wound)
7. Indulf, King of the Scots
8. Gustavus Adolphus

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