# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55207 "2017-10-06T11:16:46Z")

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People and things that failed.

1. The Ford Edsel
2. Lysenkoism
3. War on Drugs
4. Hitler & the Third Reich
5. Beta tape format  
6.The Light That Failed
6. the Microsoft Zune
7. The media polls of the 2016 election
8. William Jennings Bryan, three times
9. Heaven’s Gate
10. The Broadway musical version of “Carrie”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55208 "2017-10-06T13:21:07Z")

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People and things that failed.

1. The Ford Edsel
2. Lysenkoism
3. War on Drugs
4. Hitler & the Third Reich
5. Beta tape format  
6.The Light That Failed
6. the Microsoft Zune
7. The media polls of the 2016 election
8. William Jennings Bryan, three times
9. Heaven’s Gate
10. The Broadway musical version of “Carrie”
11. The London musical version of “Jeeves”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55209 "2017-10-06T13:23:19Z")

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People and things that failed.

1. The Ford Edsel
2. Lysenkoism
3. War on Drugs
4. Hitler & the Third Reich
5. Beta tape format  
6.The Light That Failed
6. the Microsoft Zune
7. The media polls of the 2016 election
8. William Jennings Bryan, three times
9. Heaven’s Gate
10. The Broadway musical version of “Carrie”
11. The London musical version of “Jeeves”
12. The Broadway musical version of “Spider-Man”

New!

Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s _Love of Three Oranges_

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55210 "2017-10-06T15:08:29Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier

Bored me to tears.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55211 "2017-10-06T15:19:11Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi

First opera I ever saw, at the gorgeous Teatro Colon in Buenos Aires

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55212 "2017-10-06T16:46:14Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55213 "2017-10-06T16:51:49Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s\*\*\* Faust \*\*\*  
Loved it

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55214 "2017-10-06T16:58:10Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado

Far and away my favorite G&S. I was in a high school production (in the chorus and carrying the Mikado’s banner), and have seen it twice since.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55215 "2017-10-06T18:00:52Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado
7. [Aktuh and Melota](https://youtu.be/YwhBUSB1iXg)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55216 "2017-10-06T22:28:24Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado
7. [Aktuh and Melota](https://youtu.be/YwhBUSB1iXg)
8. Mozart, The Marriage of Figaro

LOL, I have to find out more about Aktuh and Melota, great video clip!

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55217 "2017-10-06T22:33:44Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado
7. Aktuh and Melota
8. Mozart, The Marriage of Figaro
9. Verdi, Il Trovatore, P. Domingo and M. Caballe

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55218 "2017-10-06T23:27:17Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado
7. Aktuh and Melota
8. Mozart, The Marriage of Figaro
9. Verdi, Il Trovatore, P. Domingo and M. Caballe
10. Verdi’s Don Carlos

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55219 "2017-10-06T23:58:22Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado
7. Aktuh and Melota
8. Mozart, The Marriage of Figaro
9. Verdi, Il Trovatore, P. Domingo and M. Caballe
10. Verdi’s Don Carlos
11. Lehár’s The Land of Smiles

A very rare performance of this operetta, in NYC. My then-partner fell asleep, in full view of the singers.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55220 "2017-10-07T02:11:36Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado
7. Aktuh and Melota
8. Mozart, The Marriage of Figaro
9. Verdi, Il Trovatore, P. Domingo and M. Caballe
10. Verdi’s Don Carlos
11. Lehár’s The Land of Smiles
12. Mozart, The Magic Flute

Amazingly, nobody has mentioned the 6 most frequently performed operas; The Magic Flute is number 7 on the list in the link

> **[Most Popular Operas in the World by Performance Numbers](https://www.operasense.com/most-popular-operas/)**
>
> The top 10 most popular operas by number of performances. These are the operas everyone should know because they are so popular.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55221 "2017-10-07T05:01:36Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> Operas you have seen.
> 
> …7) [Aktuh and Melota](https://youtu.be/YwhBUSB1iXg)…
> 
> LOL, I have to find out more about Aktuh and Melota, great video clip!

Not much is known, alas: [Aktuh and Maylota | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Aktuh_and_Maylota)

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55222 "2017-10-07T08:46:44Z")

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Operas you have seen.

1. Prokofiev’s Love of Three Oranges
2. Strauss’s Der Rosenkavalier
3. Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
4. Die Fledermaus by Johan Straus II
5. Gounod’s Faust
6. Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado
7. Aktuh and Melota
8. Mozart, The Marriage of Figaro
9. Verdi, Il Trovatore, P. Domingo and M. Caballe
10. Verdi’s Don Carlos
11. Lehár’s The Land of Smiles
12. Mozart, The Magic Flute
13. OK, #2 Carmen, sung in Polish, in Warsaw

Next: Country of origin of the last ancestor who immigrated to your country of birth.

1. Russia (Russian controlled Lithuania)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55223 "2017-10-07T12:50:50Z")

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Next: Country of origin of the last ancestor who immigrated to your country of birth.

1. Russia (Russian controlled Lithuania)
2. Ireland (me mither’s maternal grandfather)

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55224 "2017-10-07T12:56:53Z")

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Country of origin of the last ancestor who immigrated to your country of birth.

1. Russia (Russian controlled Lithuania)

I have no idea what this means. Maybe it’s just me?

How does an ancestor move back to where I was born?

ETA: Maybe it doesn’t work for me because I’m an immigrant to Canada from my birthplace of Scotland.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55225 "2017-10-07T13:01:38Z")

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Next: Country of origin of the last ancestor who immigrated to your country of birth.

1. Russia (Russian controlled Lithuania)
2. Ireland (me mither’s maternal grandfather)
3. Canada (both parents and two siblings)

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/55226 "2017-10-07T13:04:14Z")

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Consider where you wire born. Then count backwards through your parents, gransparents, until you find one that immigrated from another coun Name the country from which that ancestor came to your country of birth.

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