# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2807

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56127 "2017-12-06T18:21:51Z")

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Foreign language equivalents of “Merry Christmas”:

1. Joyeux Noël (French)
2. God Jul (Swedish)
3. Mele Kalikimaka (Hawaiian)
4. Maligayang Pasko (Tagalog)
5. Feliz Navidad (Spanish)
6. Buon Natale(Italian)
7. С Рождеством! (Russian)
8. Kala Christougenna (Greek)
9. Frohe Weihnachten (German)
10. Vrolijk Kerstfeest (Dutch)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56128 "2017-12-06T18:35:28Z")

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Foreign language equivalents of “Merry Christmas”:

1. Joyeux Noël (French)
2. God Jul (Swedish)
3. Mele Kalikimaka (Hawaiian)
4. Maligayang Pasko (Tagalog)
5. Feliz Navidad (Spanish)
6. Buon Natale(Italian)
7. С Рождеством! (Russian)
8. Kala Christougenna (Greek)
9. Frohe Weihnachten (German)
10. Vrolijk Kerstfeest (Dutch)
11. {QISmaS Quch Daghajjaj (Klingon)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56129 "2017-12-06T22:25:52Z")

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Foreign language equivalents of “Merry Christmas”:

1. Joyeux Noël (French)
2. God Jul (Swedish)
3. Mele Kalikimaka (Hawaiian)
4. Maligayang Pasko (Tagalog)
5. Feliz Navidad (Spanish)
6. Buon Natale(Italian)
7. С Рождеством! (Russian)
8. Kala Christougenna (Greek)
9. Frohe Weihnachten (German)
10. Vrolijk Kerstfeest (Dutch)
11. {QISmaS Quch Daghajjaj (Klingon)
12. Feliz Natal (Portuguese)

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56130 "2017-12-07T01:11:12Z")

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Foreign language equivalents of “Merry Christmas”:

1. Joyeux Noël (French)
2. God Jul (Swedish)
3. Mele Kalikimaka (Hawaiian)
4. Maligayang Pasko (Tagalog)
5. Feliz Navidad (Spanish)
6. Buon Natale(Italian)
7. С Рождеством! (Russian)
8. Kala Christougenna (Greek)
9. Frohe Weihnachten (German)
10. Vrolijk Kerstfeest (Dutch)
11. {QISmaS Quch Daghajjaj (Klingon)
12. Feliz Natal (Portuguese)
13. Gëzuar Krishtlindjet (Albanian)

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56131 "2017-12-07T01:53:10Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56132 "2017-12-07T02:08:34Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56133 "2017-12-07T02:22:56Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. John Wayne as Sgt. John Stryker

In _The Sands of Iwo Jima_

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56134 "2017-12-07T02:23:29Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. Tony Danza as Tony Banta

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56135 "2017-12-07T02:41:59Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
5. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56136 "2017-12-07T02:55:25Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
5. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor
6. Roseanne Barr as Roseanne Conner

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56137 "2017-12-07T03:50:04Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. John Wayne as Sgt. John Stryker
5. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
6. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor
7. Roseanne Barr as Roseanne Conner
8. Charlie Sheen as Charlie Crawford/Charlie Harper

Also, housekeeping.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56138 "2017-12-07T06:01:21Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. John Wayne as Sgt. John Stryker
5. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
6. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor
7. Roseanne Barr as Roseanne Conner
8. Charlie Sheen as Charlie Crawford/Charlie Harper
9. Lucille Ball as Lucy Ricardo/Lucy Carmichael/Lucy Carter/Lucy Barker

On _I Love Lucy_, _The Lucy Show_, _Here’s Lucy_, and _Life With Lucy_.

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56139 "2017-12-07T12:52:19Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. John Wayne as Sgt. John Stryker
5. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
6. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor
7. Roseanne Barr as Roseanne Conner
8. Charlie Sheen as Charlie Crawford/Charlie Harper
9. Lucille Ball as Lucy Ricardo/Lucy Carmichael/Lucy Carter/Lucy Barker
10. Ron Glass as Sgt. Ron Harris

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56140 "2017-12-07T13:12:27Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. John Wayne as Sgt. John Stryker
5. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
6. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor
7. Roseanne Barr as Roseanne Conner
8. Charlie Sheen as Charlie Crawford/Charlie Harper
9. Lucille Ball as Lucy Ricardo/Lucy Carmichael/Lucy Carter/Lucy Barker
10. Ron Glass as Sgt. Ron Harris
11. Ted Knight as Ted Baxter

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56141 "2017-12-07T14:22:57Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. John Wayne as Sgt. John Stryker
5. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
6. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor
7. Roseanne Barr as Roseanne Conner
8. Charlie Sheen as Charlie Crawford/Charlie Harper
9. Lucille Ball as Lucy Ricardo/Lucy Carmichael/Lucy Carter/Lucy Barker
10. Ron Glass as Sgt. Ron Harris
11. Ted Knight as Ted Baxter
12. Carolee Campbell as Carolee Simpson Aldrich

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56142 "2017-12-07T15:03:00Z")

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Actors who played a character with their own first name, but different last name.

1. Bob Newhart as Bob Hartley
2. Woody Harrelson as Woody Boyd.
3. Mary Tyler Moore as Mary Richards
4. John Wayne as Sgt. John Stryker
5. Tony Danza as Tony Banta
6. Andy Griffith as Andy Taylor
7. Roseanne Barr as Roseanne Conner
8. Charlie Sheen as Charlie Crawford/Charlie Harper
9. Lucille Ball as Lucy Ricardo/Lucy Carmichael/Lucy Carter/Lucy Barker
10. Ron Glass as Sgt. Ron Harris
11. Ted Knight as Ted Baxter
12. Carolee Campbell as Carolee Simpson Aldrich
13. Harry Anderson as Harry Stone

This was a [SD thread in 2011](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=625979).

New topic: Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures

1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56143 "2017-12-07T15:19:39Z")

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New topic: Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures

1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg)
2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56144 "2017-12-07T20:26:40Z")

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Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures

1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg)
2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg).
3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_

It’s subtle because Welles didn’t go over the top in transforming himself into an older character (and because we got used to seeing Welles as he grew older). But he was only [25 years old](https://media1.fdncms.com/stranger/imager/u/original/23847136/film2-570.jpg) when he played Kane.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56145 "2017-12-07T22:56:18Z")

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Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures

1. Christian Bale in The Machinist
2. Charlize Theron for Monster.
3. Orson Welles in Citizen Kane
4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56146 "2017-12-08T14:10:43Z")

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]Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures

1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg)
2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg).
3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_
4. TimothySpall as Winston Churchill
5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y\_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y\_UB8M:](https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y_UB8M:)

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