# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2808
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56147 "2017-12-08T17:03:34Z")
Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg) 2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg). 3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_ 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy\_Spall\_Cannes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy_Spall_Cannes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg) 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y\_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y\_UB8M:](https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297) ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56148 "2017-12-08T17:48:53Z")
Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg) 2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg). 3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_ 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy\_Spall\_Cannes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy_Spall_Cannes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg) 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y\_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y\_UB8M:](https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297) 7. Kim Hunter in “Planet of the Apes” [https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c\_H\_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ\_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912](https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c_H_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56149 "2017-12-08T18:47:32Z")
Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg) 2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg). 3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_ 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy\_Spall\_Cannes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy_Spall_Cannes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg) 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y\_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y\_UB8M:](https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297) 7. Kim Hunter in “Planet of the Apes” [https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c\_H\_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ\_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912](https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c_H_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912) 8. Robert De Niro in “Raging Bull”: [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull\_2641807k\_trans\_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ\_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull_2641807k_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56150 "2017-12-08T21:33:49Z")
Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg) 2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg). 3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_ 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy\_Spall\_Cannes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy_Spall_Cannes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg) 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y\_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y\_UB8M:](https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297) 7. Kim Hunter in “Planet of the Apes” [https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c\_H\_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ\_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912](https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c_H_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912) 8. Robert De Niro in “Raging Bull”: [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull\_2641807k\_trans\_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ\_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull_2641807k_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450) 9. Andreas Katsulas in “Babylon 5” [https://www.google.com/search?q=katsulas+gkar+picture&safe=strict&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM%253A%252Cs90NYt9Jx7SnQM%252C\_&usg=\_\_haM\_L40I1G7\_wMuAIuiJE9T-B0Q%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjElsDtrvvXAhUq6oMKHZnPBvwQ9QEIQDAL#imgrc=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM:](https://www.google.com/search?q=katsulas+gkar+picture&safe=strict&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM%253A%252Cs90NYt9Jx7SnQM%252C_&usg=__haM_L40I1G7_wMuAIuiJE9T-B0Q%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjElsDtrvvXAhUq6oMKHZnPBvwQ9QEIQDAL#imgrc=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM:) ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56151 "2017-12-08T21:51:31Z")
[Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg) 2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg). 3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_ 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy\_Spall\_Cannes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy_Spall_Cannes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg) 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y\_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y\_UB8M:](https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297) 7. Kim Hunter in “Planet of the Apes” [https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c\_H\_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ\_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912](https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c_H_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912) 8. Robert De Niro in “Raging Bull”: [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull\_2641807k\_trans\_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ\_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull_2641807k_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450) 9. Andreas Katsulas in “Babylon 5” [https://www.google.com/search?q=katsulas+gkar+picture&safe=strict&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM%253A%252Cs90NYt9Jx7SnQM%252C\_&usg=\_\_haM\_L40I1G7\_wMuAIuiJE9T-B0Q%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjElsDtrvvXAhUq6oMKHZnPBvwQ9QEIQDAL#imgrc=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM:](https://www.google.com/search?q=katsulas+gkar+picture&safe=strict&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM%253A%252Cs90NYt9Jx7SnQM%252C_&usg=__haM_L40I1G7_wMuAIuiJE9T-B0Q%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjElsDtrvvXAhUq6oMKHZnPBvwQ9QEIQDAL#imgrc=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM:) 10. Dan Stevens in “Beauty and the Beast” [https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/dan-stevens-split-2000x2000.jpg?crop=0px%2C0px%2C2000px%2C1050px&resize=1200%2C630](https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/dan-stevens-split-2000x2000.jpg?crop=0px%2C0px%2C2000px%2C1050px&resize=1200%2C630) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56152 "2017-12-09T05:19:34Z")
Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. [Christian Bale](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1LQbpfgfJRomQO_qo0hECjSfGsk/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/12/51/3/192/1922398/77b6c02fc194714e_christianbale.jpg) in [The Machinist](https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/ucygdjwn72vxcq2bsgga/christian-bale-nearly-died-for-the-machinist-surviving-on-an-apple-and-a-can-of-tuna-daily.jpg) 2. Charlize Theron for [Monster](http://static.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/charlize.jpg). 3. [Orson Welles](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c057c866c3355bd3d11036826e99aef6732626ce/c=0-31-2715-2072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/11/10/USATODAY/USATODAY/636143853827849708-KANE-ORSON-WELLES-1418631.JPG) in _Citizen Kane_ 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy\_Spall\_Cannes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Timothy_Spall_Cannes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spall-as-churchill.jpg) 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y\_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y\_UB8M:](https://www.google.com/search?q=actor+unrecognizable&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJo5m0y_rXAhVD7oMKHW7IDsMQ7AkIPQ&biw=1536&bih=753#imgrc=g4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c/ce/6a9ccecd39e303b573dce04a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53e00ad34b318.jpg?r=481460297) 7. Kim Hunter in “Planet of the Apes” [https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c\_H\_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ\_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912](https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+hunter+planet+of+the+apes+before+and+after+makeup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj7c_H_PrXAhXyQt8KHbJ_CogQ7AkIMg&biw=1280&bih=912) 8. Robert De Niro in “Raging Bull”: [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull\_2641807k\_trans\_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ\_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2016/04/11/raging-bull_2641807k_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450) 9. Andreas Katsulas in “Babylon 5” [https://www.google.com/search?q=katsulas+gkar+picture&safe=strict&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM%253A%252Cs90NYt9Jx7SnQM%252C\_&usg=\_\_haM\_L40I1G7\_wMuAIuiJE9T-B0Q%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjElsDtrvvXAhUq6oMKHZnPBvwQ9QEIQDAL#imgrc=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM:](https://www.google.com/search?q=katsulas+gkar+picture&safe=strict&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM%253A%252Cs90NYt9Jx7SnQM%252C_&usg=__haM_L40I1G7_wMuAIuiJE9T-B0Q%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjElsDtrvvXAhUq6oMKHZnPBvwQ9QEIQDAL#imgrc=RPiq1XKl9Z1oFM:) 10. Dan Stevens in “Beauty and the Beast” [https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/dan-stevens-split-2000x2000.jpg?crop=0px%2C0px%2C2000px%2C1050px&resize=1200%2C630](https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/dan-stevens-split-2000x2000.jpg?crop=0px%2C0px%2C2000px%2C1050px&resize=1200%2C630) 11. Bryan Cranston as LBJ in “All the Way”: [http://popgoestheweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Cranston.jpg](http://popgoestheweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Cranston.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56153 "2017-12-10T00:33:47Z")
Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. Christian Bale in The Machinist 2. Charlize Theron for Monster. 3. Orson Welles in Citizen Kane 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...annes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...annes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpre](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpre)…-churchill.jpg 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [acto...4Uof2D9y\_UB8M: - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=acto...4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c...4a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c...4a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53...pg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53...pg?r=481460297) 7. Kim Hunter in “Planet of the Apes” [kim ...w=1280 - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+...w=1280&bih=912) 8. Robert De Niro in “Raging Bull”: [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/d...pg?imwidth=450](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/d...pg?imwidth=450) 9. Andreas Katsulas in “Babylon 5” [kats...Piq1XKl9Z1oFM: - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=kats...Piq1XKl9Z1oFM:) 10. Dan Stevens in “Beauty and the Beast” [https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress](https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress)…ize=1200%2C630 11. Bryan Cranston as LBJ in “All the Way”: [http://popgoestheweek.com/wp-content...5/Cranston.jpg](http://popgoestheweek.com/wp-content...5/Cranston.jpg) 12. Both Warner Oland and Sydney Tolar as “Charlie Chan” . . . .however, Nunber One Son was actually played by a Chinese American. ---
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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56155 "2017-12-10T14:01:01Z")
Uncanny actor transformations, with links to before and after pictures 1. Christian Bale in The Machinist 2. Charlize Theron for Monster. 3. Orson Welles in Citizen Kane 4. Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...annes\_2014.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...annes_2014.jpg) and [https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpre](https://bigbandmomoney.files.wordpre)…-churchill.jpg 5. Kelsey Grammer in “X-Men 3” [acto...4Uof2D9y\_UB8M: - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=acto...4Uof2D9y_UB8M:) 6. Dustin Hoffman in “Little Big Man”: [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c...4a2a1b462a.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/9c...4a2a1b462a.jpg) and [http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53...pg?r=481460297](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/08/53...pg?r=481460297) 7. Kim Hunter in “Planet of the Apes” [kim ...w=1280 - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=kim+...w=1280&bih=912) 8. Robert De Niro in “Raging Bull”: [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/d...pg?imwidth=450](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/d...pg?imwidth=450) 9. Andreas Katsulas in “Babylon 5” [kats...Piq1XKl9Z1oFM: - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=kats...Piq1XKl9Z1oFM:) 10. Dan Stevens in “Beauty and the Beast” [https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress](https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress)…ize=1200%2C630 11. Bryan Cranston as LBJ in “All the Way”: [http://popgoestheweek.com/wp-content...5/Cranston.jpg](http://popgoestheweek.com/wp-content...5/Cranston.jpg) 12. Both Warner Oland and Sydney Tolar as “Charlie Chan” 13. Billy Crystal in [The Princess Bride](https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/campaign_images/web05/2012/10/3/15/there-was-a-bit-of-mel-brooks-in-billy-crystals-m-1-19913-1349291960-16_big.jpg) Next: One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) ---
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One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) Remember the Wesley Snipes movie “Money Train”? That USED to be a real thing, though Grandpa just called it “the money CAR.” It used to go to all the subway stations at night to collect all the day’s receipts. Note that nobody dared Rob the money train while MY grandpa worked on it! ---
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One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) ---
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One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) One of his fingers was crooked from having been caught in the door of a mine elevator. For some years he worked in a gold mine and when the film “Coal Miner’s Daughter” came out, family members joked that my mom was “the gold miner’s daughter.” astorian, I never realized that the money train/car was a real thing! ---
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One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Peppermint farmer (maternal grandfather) ---
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One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Restaurant owner/operator (maternal grandfather) ---
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One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Peppermint farmer (maternal grandfather) 6. Restaurant owner/operator (maternal grandfather) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56162 "2017-12-10T16:18:46Z")
One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Peppermint farmer (maternal grandfather) 6. Restaurant owner/operator (maternal grandfather) 7. Elementary school teacher (maternal grandmother) ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56163 "2017-12-10T16:28:54Z")
One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Peppermint farmer (maternal grandfather) 6. Restaurant owner/operator (maternal grandfather) 7. Elementary school teacher (maternal grandmother) 8. Rodeo photographer (mother’s father) ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56164 "2017-12-10T17:27:26Z")
One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Peppermint farmer (maternal grandfather) 6. Restaurant owner/operator (maternal grandfather) 7. Elementary school teacher (maternal grandmother) 8. Rodeo photographer (mother’s father) 9. Railyard manager (paternal grandfather) His occupation was deemed a critical skill so he was refused when he tried to enlist in the military for WWII. The townspeople did not understand why this healthy man of fighting age was not in the military so he caught no end of grief. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56165 "2017-12-10T19:46:23Z")
One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Marble miner (mother’s father) ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/56166 "2017-12-10T19:48:06Z")
One of your grandparents’ occupations 1. Carpenter (paternal grandfather) 2. Armed guard on the NYC subway system’s “money train” (father’s father) 3. Partner in a local drayage company (paternal grandfather) 4. Mining engineer (maternal grandfather) 5. Peppermint farmer (maternal grandfather) 6. Restaurant owner/operator (maternal grandfather) 7. Elementary school teacher (maternal grandmother) 8. Rodeo photographer (mother’s father) 9. Railyard manager (paternal grandfather) 10. Marble miner (mother’s father) 11. Storekeeper / owner (paternal grandmother) She was widowed in her mid-30s when my grandfather was drowned in a shipwreck, and she took over his store and business. It looks like not too many of our grandmothers worked outside their homes? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2807) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2809)