# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2863
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57247 "2018-02-14T22:37:51Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57248 "2018-02-14T22:42:10Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell > **[Prick Up Your Ears](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prick_Up_Your_Ears)** > > Prick Up Your Ears is a 1987 British film, directed by Stephen Frears, about the playwright Joe Orton and his lover Kenneth Halliwell. The screenplay was written by Alan Bennett, based on the 1978 biography by John Lahr. The film stars Gary Oldman as Orton, Alfred Molina as Halliwell, Wallace Shawn as Lahr, and Vanessa Redgrave as Peggy Ramsay. > Islington, 9 August 1967. Literary agent Peggy Ramsay knocks on the door of playwright Joe Orton and his lover Kenneth Halliwell, but nobody opens. Sh... ---
**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57249 "2018-02-15T00:22:17Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57250 "2018-02-15T00:48:49Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi 7. Zeus & Ganymede ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57251 "2018-02-15T02:19:19Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi 7. Zeus & Ganymede 8. Alexander the Great and Bagoas Their story is told in _The Persian Boy_ by Mary Renault ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57252 "2018-02-15T04:01:42Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi 7. Zeus & Ganymede 8. Alexander the Great and Bagoas 9. Ned Beatty and Bill McKinney ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57253 "2018-02-15T04:56:42Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi 7. Zeus & Ganymede 8. Alexander the Great and Bagoas 9. Ned Beatty and Bill McKinney 10. Radclyffe Hall and Una Troubridge ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57254 "2018-02-15T11:50:38Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi 7. Zeus & Ganymede 8. Alexander the Great and Bagoas 9. Ned Beatty and Bill McKinney 10. Radclyffe Hall and Una Troubridge 11. Jane Lynch & Dr. Lara Embry ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57255 "2018-02-15T12:48:30Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi 7. Zeus & Ganymede 8. Alexander the Great and Bagoas 9. Ned Beatty and Bill McKinney 10. Radclyffe Hall and Una Troubridge 11. Jane Lynch & Dr. Lara Embry 12. President James Buchanan & William Rufus King (maybe) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57256 "2018-02-15T14:04:38Z")
Non-heterosexual pairs of lovers, real or fictional. 1. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion 2. Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas 3. Elton John and David Furnish 4. Achilles and Patroclus 5. Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell 6. Ellen DeGeneres & Portia De Rossi 7. Zeus & Ganymede 8. Alexander the Great and Bagoas 9. Ned Beatty and Bill McKinney 10. Radclyffe Hall and Una Troubridge 11. Jane Lynch & Dr. Lara Embry 12. President James Buchanan & William Rufus King (maybe) 13. Mick Jagger and David Bowie New topic Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Phillip ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57257 "2018-02-15T14:08:27Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles (let’s keep the royals straight) 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57258 "2018-02-15T14:15:30Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles (let’s keep the royals straight) 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57259 "2018-02-15T14:21:36Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles (let’s keep the royals straight) 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Donald & Ivanka Trump ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57260 "2018-02-15T14:25:15Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles (let’s keep the royals straight) 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Sonny and Cher ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57261 "2018-02-15T15:14:09Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Donald and Ivana Trump ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57262 "2018-02-15T15:41:38Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Donald and Ivana Trump 5. Johnny & Joanna Carson ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57263 "2018-02-15T15:48:43Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Donald and Ivana Trump 5. Johnny & Joanna Carson 6. Donald Trump and Marla Maples ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57264 "2018-02-15T15:54:01Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Donald and Ivana Trump 5. Johnny & Joanna Carson 6. Donald Trump and Marla Maples 7. Sean Penn and Madonna ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57265 "2018-02-15T15:58:35Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Donald and Ivana Trump 5. Johnny & Joanna Carson 6. Donald Trump and Marla Maples 7. Sean Penn and Madonna 8. Ernest and Wallis Simpson Leaving her free to marry the by-then-former King Edward VIII. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/57266 "2018-02-15T16:05:15Z")
Notable Divorces 1. Princess Diana and Prince Charles 2. John Lennon & Cynthia Lennon 3. Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon 4. Donald and Ivana Trump 5. Johnny & Joanna Carson 6. Sonny and Cher 7. Sean Penn and Madonna 8. Ernesdt and Wallis Simpson 9. Donald Trump and Marla Maples [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2862) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2864)