# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 289
**Author:** ![copperwindow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@copperwindow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/copperwindow)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5761 "2011-06-06T04:08:22Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than We Didn’t Start the Fire 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Doris Day – “we didn’t start the fire” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5762 "2011-06-06T05:52:53Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than We Didn’t Start the Fire 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” The category said no “We Didn’t Start the Fire” people ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5763 "2011-06-06T06:22:42Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than We Didn’t Start the Fire 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” 8. Viktor- Leningrad (Russian clown/real person) ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5764 "2011-06-06T06:29:08Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than We Didn’t Start the Fire 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” 8. Viktor- Leningrad (Russian clown/real person) 9. Alexa - The Downeaster Alexa (Joel’s daughter) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5765 "2011-06-06T16:35:51Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than We Didn’t Start the Fire 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” 8. Viktor- Leningrad (Russian clown/real person) 9. Alexa - The Downeaster Alexa (Joel’s daughter) 10. Paul the real estate novelist- “Piano Man” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5766 "2011-06-06T18:03:28Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than “We Didn’t Start the Fire” 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the Navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” 8. Viktor- Leningrad (Russian clown/real person) 9. Alexa - The Downeaster Alexa (Joel’s daughter) 10. Paul the real estate novelist- “Piano Man” 11. James, “James” ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5767 "2011-06-06T18:47:13Z")
[quote=“Elendil\_s\_Heir, post:5766, topic:549173”] People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than “We Didn’t Start the Fire” 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the Navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” 8. Viktor- Leningrad (Russian clown/real person) 9. Alexa - The Downeaster Alexa (Joel’s daughter) 10. Paul the real estate novelist- “Piano Man” 11. James, “James” 12. Uptown Girl (Christie Brinkley) - “Uptown Girl” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5768 "2011-06-06T18:47:14Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than “We Didn’t Start the Fire” 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the Navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” 8. Viktor- Leningrad (Russian clown/real person) 9. Alexa - The Downeaster Alexa (Joel’s daughter) 10. Paul the real estate novelist- “Piano Man” 11. James, “James” 12. Captain Jack - “Captain Jack” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5769 "2011-06-06T19:00:33Z")
People (real or fictional) named in Billy Joel songs other than “We Didn’t Start the Fire” 1. Bob Hope – “Goodnight Saigon” 2. Virginia – “Only the Good Die Young” 3. Sergeant O’Leary – “Movin’ Out” 4. Davy (who’s still in the Navy) – “Piano Man” 5. The Lady in Red – “The Lady in Red” 6. Brenda (“Brender”) and Eddie - “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” 7. Leyna - “All for Leyna” 8. Viktor- Leningrad (Russian clown/real person) 9. Alexa - The Downeaster Alexa (Joel’s daughter) 10. Paul the real estate novelist- “Piano Man” 11. James, “James” 12. Captain Jack - “Captain Jack” 13. “Uptown Girl”- “Uptown Girl” Next Up: Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. _For What It’s Worth_/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5770 "2011-06-06T19:20:19Z")
Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5771 "2011-06-06T19:21:07Z")
Next Up: Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. _For What It’s Worth_/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” Used in _Birth of a Nation_, _Apocalypse Now_, and the Vietnam scenes of _Watchmen_. And in a case of [truth in television](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TruthInTelevision), there actually were German units in WWII that blasted Wagner over loudspeakers as they attacked. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5772 "2011-06-06T19:37:46Z")
1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones Thanks to [this article](http://www.pophistorydig.com/?tag=paint-it-black-in-movies) I was able to confirm that it is at least topical for the list. I knew it had been used in the Tour of Duty TV show but wasn’t sure if my recollection of Full Metal Jacket was correct. Also gobsmacked that the Stones lost the rights to it many years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5773 "2011-06-06T20:05:32Z")
1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. La Vie En Rose/Edith Piaf (World War 2) A funny thing about this one is it doesn’t matter where the WW2 is set: it was playing in a Nazi office in _X Men 2_, it was the only record that survived a village’s destruction in _Saving Private Ryan_, it played in Italy in a scene of the miniseries _War and Remembrance_; I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s made its way into some War in the Pacific movies. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5774 "2011-06-06T20:08:38Z")
Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. “O Fortuna” by Carl Orff > **[O Fortuna (Orff)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Orff%27s_O_Fortuna_in_popular_culture)** > > "O Fortuna" is a movement in Carl Orff's 1935–36 cantata Carmina Burana. It begins the opening and closing sections, both titled "Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi". The cantata is based on a medieval Goliardic poetry collection of the same name, from which the poem "O Fortuna" provides the words sung in the movement. It was well-received during its time, and entered popular culture through use in other musical works, advertisements, and soundtracks beginning in the late 20th century. > "O Fortuna" is a me... ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5775 "2011-06-06T20:55:53Z")
Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. “O Fortuna” by Carl Orff 6. “All Along the Watchtower”/Jimi Hendrix (Vietnam) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5776 "2011-06-06T22:34:30Z")
Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. “O Fortuna” by Carl Orff 6. “All Along the Watchtower”/Jimi Hendrix (Vietnam) 7. Don’t Sit Under the Apple Tree/The Andrews Sister (World War II) ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5777 "2011-06-07T02:43:39Z")
Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. “O Fortuna” by Carl Orff 6. “All Along the Watchtower”/Jimi Hendrix (Vietnam) 7. Don’t Sit Under the Apple Tree/The Andrews Sisters (World War II) 8. La Vie En Rose/Edith Piaf (World War 2) 9. “The Bonnie Blue Flag” (American Civil War) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5778 "2011-06-07T06:47:33Z")
Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. “O Fortuna” by Carl Orff 6. “All Along the Watchtower”/Jimi Hendrix (Vietnam) 7. Don’t Sit Under the Apple Tree/The Andrews Sisters (World War II) 8. La Vie En Rose/Edith Piaf (World War 2) 9. “The Bonnie Blue Flag” (American Civil War) 10. Dixie (American Civil War) ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_of\_Lucan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Michael\_of\_Lucan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_of_Lucan)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/5779 "2011-06-07T10:57:59Z")
1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. “O Fortuna” by Carl Orff 6. “All Along the Watchtower”/Jimi Hendrix (Vietnam) 7. Don’t Sit Under the Apple Tree/The Andrews Sisters (World War II) 8. La Vie En Rose/Edith Piaf (World War 2) 9. “The Bonnie Blue Flag” (American Civil War) 10. Dixie (American Civil War) 11. Lilli Marlene (WW II) ---
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Songs Frequently Used in War Movies 1. For What It’s Worth/Buffalo Springfield (Vietnam movies) 2. When This Cruel War is Over (Civil War) 3. “The Ride of the Valkyries” 4. “Paint it black”/Rolling Stones 5. “O Fortuna” by Carl Orff 6. “All Along the Watchtower”/Jimi Hendrix (Vietnam) 7. Don’t Sit Under the Apple Tree/The Andrews Sisters (World War II) 8. La Vie En Rose/Edith Piaf (World War 2) 9. “The Bonnie Blue Flag” (American Civil War) 10. Dixie (American Civil War) 11. Lilli Marlene (WW II) 12. Over There (WWI) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=288) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=290)