# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3009

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60167 "2018-07-10T23:07:04Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)

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**Author:** ![CharmaChameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@CharmaChameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CharmaChameleon)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60168 "2018-07-10T23:52:55Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60169 "2018-07-11T00:22:48Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)

Rubin has also worked with Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, The Cult, Eminem, Mick Jagger, Jay-Z, LL Cool J, Lil Jon, Metallica, Tom Petty, Public Enemy, Run-DMC, Shakira, and U2. He’s a producer who can cover a lot of genres.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60170 "2018-07-11T04:30:37Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60171 "2018-07-11T05:00:36Z")

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60172 "2018-07-11T06:04:23Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)

Dudgeon produced pretty much all of Elton John’s work between 1970 and 1979, and did occasional work for Elton John subsequently (including _Live in Australia with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra_); as well as producing other bands and acts.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60173 "2018-07-11T06:16:21Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)
7. Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff ([“For the Love of Money”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM5Ruy4wX1M), The O’Jays)

/Production teams are okay, right?

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60174 "2018-07-11T07:29:05Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)
7. Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff ([“For the Love of Money”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM5Ruy4wX1M), The O’Jays)
8. Phil Ramone (“Still Crazy After All These Years,” Paul Simon and “Just the Way You Are”, Billy Joel)

Each of these won him a Grammy

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60175 "2018-07-11T10:37:55Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)
7. Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff (“For the Love of Money”, The O’Jays)
8. Phil Ramone (“Still Crazy After All These Years,” Paul Simon and “Just the Way You Are”, Billy Joel)
9. Owen Bradley (“I Fall to Pieces”, Patsy Cline)

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60176 "2018-07-11T10:52:31Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)
7. Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff (“For the Love of Money”, The O’Jays)
8. Phil Ramone (“Still Crazy After All These Years,” Paul Simon and “Just the Way You Are”, Billy Joel)
9. Owen Bradley (“I Fall to Pieces”, Patsy Cline)
10. Richard Perry (“Fire”, The Pointer Sisters)

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**Author:** ![Bonzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/838e76/32.png) [@Bonzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonzi)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60177 "2018-07-11T12:20:36Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)
7. Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff (“For the Love of Money”, The O’Jays)
8. Phil Ramone (“Still Crazy After All These Years,” Paul Simon and “Just the Way You Are”, Billy Joel)
9. Owen Bradley (“I Fall to Pieces”, Patsy Cline)
10. Richard Perry (“Fire”, The Pointer Sisters)
11. Steve Albini (In Utero, Nirvana)

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60178 "2018-07-11T12:54:27Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)
7. Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff (“For the Love of Money”, The O’Jays)
8. Phil Ramone (“Still Crazy After All These Years,” Paul Simon and “Just the Way You Are”, Billy Joel)
9. Owen Bradley (“I Fall to Pieces”, Patsy Cline)
10. Richard Perry (“Fire”, The Pointer Sisters)
11. Steve Albini (In Utero, Nirvana)
12. Brian Eno (Joshua Tree, U2)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60179 "2018-07-11T13:22:06Z")

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Famous record producers (with an example of their work)

1. Steve Lillywhite (“Peter Gabriel III,” aka “Melt”)
2. Alan Parsons (“Year of the Cat,” Al Stewart)’
3. Phil Spector(“Da Doo Ron Ron”, The Crystals)
4. Rick Rubin (“No Sleep till Brooklyn”, The Beastie Boys; “Delia’s Gone”, Johnny Cash; “Under the Bridge”, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
5. George Martin (“Please Please Me”, The Beatles)
6. Gus Dudgeon (“Your Song,” Elton John)
7. Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff (“For the Love of Money”, The O’Jays)
8. Phil Ramone (“Still Crazy After All These Years,” Paul Simon and “Just the Way You Are”, Billy Joel)
9. Owen Bradley (“I Fall to Pieces”, Patsy Cline)
10. Richard Perry (“Fire”, The Pointer Sisters)
11. Steve Albini (In Utero, Nirvana)
12. Brian Eno (Joshua Tree, U2)
13. Ry Cooder (Buena Vista Social Club, Talking Timbuktu)

Next category:

Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60180 "2018-07-11T14:23:13Z")

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Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies
2. Sarah Connor “Terminator 2”

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60181 "2018-07-11T14:27:00Z")

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Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies
2. Sarah Connor “Terminator 2”
3. Buffy Summers, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” movie and TV series

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60182 "2018-07-11T15:48:54Z")

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Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies
2. Sarah Connor “Terminator 2”
3. Buffy Summers, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” movie and TV series
4. Lara Croft, “Tomb Raider”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60183 "2018-07-11T16:16:01Z")

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Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies
2. Sarah Connor “Terminator 2”
3. Buffy Summers, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” movie and TV series
4. Lara Croft, “Tomb Raider”
5. Okoye, “Black Panther”

The best female badass of recent movies IMHO: [https://www.jckonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Black-Panther-jewelry-warrior.jpg](https://www.jckonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Black-Panther-jewelry-warrior.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60184 "2018-07-11T17:01:08Z")

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Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies
2. Sarah Connor “Terminator 2”
3. Buffy Summers, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” movie and TV series
4. Lara Croft, “Tomb Raider”
5. Okoye, “Black Panther”
6. Imperator Furiosa, _Mad Max: Fury Road_

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60185 "2018-07-11T18:11:42Z")

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Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies
2. Sarah Connor “Terminator 2”
3. Buffy Summers, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” movie and TV series
4. Lara Croft, “Tomb Raider”
5. Okoye, “Black Panther”
6. Imperator Furiosa, _Mad Max: Fury Road_
7. Diana Prince / Wonder Woman, DC Comics, TV and film

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60186 "2018-07-11T18:16:06Z")

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Action heroines

1. Ellen Ripley, “Alien” movies
2. Sarah Connor “Terminator 2”
3. Buffy Summers, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” movie and TV series
4. Lara Croft, “Tomb Raider”
5. Okoye, “Black Panther”
6. Imperator Furiosa, Mad Max: Fury Road
7. Diana Prince / Wonder Woman, DC Comics, TV and film
8. Agent Shaw, “Person of Interest”

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