# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60387 "2018-07-24T14:11:41Z")

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Songs with ROCK in the title, but without the ROLL

1. Crocodile Rock - Elton John
2. Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
3. Detroit Rock City - Kiss
4. Rock Me - ABBA
5. Jesus Is a Rock in a Weary Land - Spiritual
6. I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
7. Rock of Ages"–The Reverend Augustus Toplady

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60388 "2018-07-24T14:22:27Z")

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Songs with ROCK in the title, but without the ROLL

1. Crocodile Rock - Elton John
2. Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
3. Detroit Rock City - Kiss
4. Rock Me - ABBA
5. Jesus Is a Rock in a Weary Land - Spiritual
6. I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
7. Rock of Ages"–The Reverend Augustus Toplady
8. Rock the Casbah - The Clash

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60389 "2018-07-24T14:30:05Z")

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Next up: Songs with ROCK in the title, but without the ROLL

1. Crocodile Rock - Elton John
2. Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
3. Detroit Rock City - Kiss
4. Rock Me - ABBA
5. Jesus Is a Rock in a Weary Land - Spiritual
6. I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
7. Rock of Ages"–The Reverend Augustus Toplady
8. Rock the Casbah - The Clash
9. Rock Around the Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60390 "2018-07-24T14:59:49Z")

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Songs with ROCK in the title, but without the ROLL

1. Crocodile Rock - Elton John
2. Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
3. Detroit Rock City - Kiss
4. Rock Me - ABBA
5. Jesus Is a Rock in a Weary Land - Spiritual
6. I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
7. Rock of Ages"–The Reverend Augustus Toplady
8. Rock the Casbah - The Clash
9. Rock Around the Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets
10. Rock Me, Amadeus - Falco

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60391 "2018-07-24T15:37:28Z")

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Songs with ROCK in the title, but without the ROLL

1. Crocodile Rock - Elton John
2. Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
3. Detroit Rock City - Kiss
4. Rock Me - ABBA
5. Jesus Is a Rock in a Weary Land - Spiritual
6. I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
7. Rock of Ages"–The Reverend Augustus Toplady
8. Rock the Casbah - The Clash
9. Rock Around the Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets
10. Rock Me, Amadeus - Falco
11. Cradle Rock - Rory Gallagher

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60392 "2018-07-24T15:37:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Is this a reference to _It’s a Wonderful Life_? Did you mean Jimmy Stewart?

All together (not like Airplane :)):  
:smack:

And one more for good measure:

:smack:

What’s an appropriate sentence for this offense?  
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60393 "2018-07-24T15:55:03Z")

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Songs with ROCK in the title, but without the ROLL

1. Crocodile Rock - Elton John
2. Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
3. Detroit Rock City - Kiss
4. Rock Me - ABBA
5. Jesus Is a Rock in a Weary Land - Spiritual
6. I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
7. Rock of Ages"–The Reverend Augustus Toplady
8. Rock the Casbah - The Clash
9. Rock Around the Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets
10. Rock Me, Amadeus - Falco
11. Cradle Rock - Rory Gallagher
12. Chinese Rocks - The Ramones

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60394 "2018-07-24T16:04:52Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> …What’s an appropriate sentence for this offense?

Heh. I’ll give you probation, on condition that you post here at least once a week.

I don’t think the denizens of Potterville in _It’s A Wonderful Life_ were ghosts, though; they’re human beings who just happen to live in an alternate universe. So:

1. Dr. Malcolm Crowe, The Sixth Sense

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60395 "2018-07-24T16:06:48Z")

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Songs with ROCK in the title, but without the ROLL

1. Crocodile Rock - Elton John
2. Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
3. Detroit Rock City - Kiss
4. Rock Me - ABBA
5. Jesus Is a Rock in a Weary Land - Spiritual
6. I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
7. Rock of Ages"–The Reverend Augustus Toplady
8. Rock the Casbah - The Clash
9. Rock Around the Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets
10. Rock Me, Amadeus - Falco
11. Cradle Rock - Rory Gallagher
12. Chinese Rocks - The Ramones
13. Rock 'til You Drop - Status Quo

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60396 "2018-07-24T16:32:02Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. _The Divide_ by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)

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**Author:** ![CharmaChameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@CharmaChameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CharmaChameleon)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60397 "2018-07-24T17:19:21Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South (Harry Turtledove). After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60398 "2018-07-24T17:25:18Z")

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I thought the CSA got the actual guns, **ChaCha**?

Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60399 "2018-07-24T21:35:03Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60400 "2018-07-25T13:33:13Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60401 "2018-07-25T13:33:57Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)
7. Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)

The best alt-hist book I’ve ever read.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60402 "2018-07-25T13:37:29Z")

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nm

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60403 "2018-07-25T13:38:55Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)
7. Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)
8. The Simpsons go back in time frequently in a _Treehouse of Horrors_ episode and continually screw up the future. They finally settle for an outcome where humans have frog tongues and eat insects.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60404 "2018-07-25T14:13:34Z")

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1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)
7. Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)
8. The Simpsons go back in time frequently in a Treehouse of Horrors episode and continually screw up the future. They finally settle for an outcome where humans have frog tongues and eat insects.  
9: Stars and Stripes Forever by Harry Harrison (the Trent Affair blows up, causing war between Great Britain and the Union - but blunders by the UK Navy leads to an inadvertent attack on the Confederacy, leading war between the UK and the reUnited States).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60405 "2018-07-25T14:56:18Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. _The Divide_ by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)
7. Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)
8. The Simpsons go back in time frequently in a Treehouse of Horrors episode and continually screw up the future. They finally settle for an outcome where humans have frog tongues and eat insects.  
9: Stars and Stripes Forever by Harry Harrison (the Trent Affair blows up, causing war between Great Britain and the Union - but blunders by the UK Navy leads to an inadvertent attack on the Confederacy, leading war between the UK and the reUnited States).
9. _Resurrection Day_ by Brendan DuBois (the Cuban Missile Crisis ends up as a limited nuclear war)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60406 "2018-07-25T14:58:30Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)
> 
> The best alt-hist book I’ve ever read.

If you liked _Fatherland_, I think you would also like _Resurrection Day_.

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