# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60407 "2018-07-25T15:15:56Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. _The Divide_ by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)
7. Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)
8. The Simpsons go back in time frequently in a Treehouse of Horrors episode and continually screw up the future. They finally settle for an outcome where humans have frog tongues and eat insects.  
9: Stars and Stripes Forever by Harry Harrison (the Trent Affair blows up, causing war between Great Britain and the Union - but blunders by the UK Navy leads to an inadvertent attack on the Confederacy, leading war between the UK and the reUnited States).
9. _Resurrection Day_ by Brendan DuBois (the Cuban Missile Crisis ends up as a limited nuclear war)
10. Lion’s Blood by Steven Barnes. Alexander the Great dies later, after becoming pharoah of Egypt, which leads to a world in which Africa dominates Europe and colonizes much of North America

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60408 "2018-07-25T15:18:06Z")

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**Little Nemo** , thanks, yes, I read it, but was disappointed by it.

Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)
2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)
3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)
4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)
5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)
7. Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)
8. The Simpsons go back in time frequently in a Treehouse of Horrors episode and continually screw up the future. They finally settle for an outcome where humans have frog tongues and eat insects.  
9: Stars and Stripes Forever by Harry Harrison (the Trent Affair blows up, causing war between Great Britain and the Union - but blunders by the UK Navy leads to an inadvertent attack on the Confederacy, leading war between the UK and the reUnited States).
9. Resurrection Day by Brendan DuBois (the Cuban Missile Crisis ends up as a limited nuclear war)
10. Lion’s Blood by Steven Barnes. Alexander the Great dies later, after becoming pharoah of Egypt, which leads to a world in which Africa dominates Europe and colonizes much of North America
11. Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke (Northern England was ruled by the Raven King, a wizard, for centuries; he disappeared and magic seems to disappear with him until the early 1800s)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60409 "2018-07-25T16:35:20Z")

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Alternative Histories (and what’s different)

1. Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore (Confederacy wins the Civil War and expands into Mexico; U.S. becomes a backwater)

2. The Divide by William Overgard (Isolationist Burton Wheeler is elected President in 1940; The Axis wins WWII and occupies America)

3. The Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove (After Gettysburg the Confederacy receives the gift of plans for AK-47 rifles)

4. Dominion by C.J. Sansom (Churchill doesn’t become PM in 1940; the UK makes peace with Nazi Germany and is still dominated by it in 1952)

5. The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde (Instead of ending in 1856, the Crimean War is still going on in 1985; the “Charge of the Light-Armoured Brigade” takes place in the 1970s)

6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert videogame (Albert Einstein travels into the past and kills Hitler leading to Soviet invasion of Europe and retrofuturistic tech)

7. Fatherland by Robert Harris (Nazis realize their codes have been broken, change them and win WWII. Cold War develops between Germany and US. In 1964, Hitler prepares for a summit meeting with President Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.)

8. The Simpsons go back in time frequently in a Treehouse of Horrors episode and continually screw up the future. They finally settle for an outcome where humans have frog tongues and eat insects.  
9: Stars and Stripes Forever by Harry Harrison (the Trent Affair blows up, causing war between Great Britain and the Union - but blunders by the UK Navy leads to an inadvertent attack on the Confederacy, leading war between the UK and the reUnited States).

9. Resurrection Day by Brendan DuBois (the Cuban Missile Crisis ends up as a limited nuclear war)

10. Lion’s Blood by Steven Barnes. Alexander the Great dies later, after becoming pharoah of Egypt, which leads to a world in which Africa dominates Europe and colonizes much of North America

11. Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke (Northern England was ruled by the Raven King, a wizard, for centuries; he disappeared and magic seems to disappear with him until the early 1800s)

12. Anno Dracula by Kim Hunter (Dracula is real and marries Queen Victoria; vampirism becomes fashionable.)  
New!  
Favorite fictional detectives

13. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60410 "2018-07-25T17:06:03Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60411 "2018-07-25T17:13:06Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60412 "2018-07-25T17:18:05Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")

From Sue Grafton’s alphabet series. RIP Sue, who unfortunately died of cancer last year before writing the 26th book in the series, probably titled “Z is for Zero”

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60413 "2018-07-25T17:26:17Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”)

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60414 "2018-07-25T17:50:32Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”)
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60415 "2018-07-25T17:59:10Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)
7. Nero Wolfe (“I am nobody’s friend. How much can you pay?”)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60416 "2018-07-25T18:15:49Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)
7. Nero Wolfe (“I am nobody’s friend. How much can you pay?”)
8. Dirk Gently (“Everything is connected.”)

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60417 "2018-07-25T18:23:05Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)
7. Nero Wolfe (“I am nobody’s friend. How much can you pay?”)
8. Dirk Gently (“Everything is connected.”)
9. Professor Peter Shandy (“I am rife with meaning. All will be revealed.”)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60418 "2018-07-25T18:32:34Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.')
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)
7. Nero Wolfe (“I am nobody’s friend. How much can you pay?”)
8. Dirk Gently (“Everything is connected.”)
9. Professor Peter Shandy (“I am rife with meaning. All will be revealed.”)
10. SS-Sturmbannführer Xavier March of the Berlin Kriminalpolizei (“‘Yes,’ he said. No, he thought.”)

In the aforementioned _Fatherland_.

> **[Kriminalpolizei (Nazi Germany)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriminalpolizei_(Nazi_Germany))**
>
> Kriminalpolizei (English: Criminal Police), often abbreviated as Kripo, is the German name for a criminal investigation department. This article deals with the agency during the Nazi era.
> In Nazi Germany, the Kripo consisted of the Reich Criminal Police Department (RKPA), which in 1939 became Department V of the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA). There were criminal investigation centers directly subordinated to RKPA as well as criminal investigation divisions of the local state and municipal p...

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60419 "2018-07-25T18:38:42Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)
7. Nero Wolfe (“I am nobody’s friend. How much can you pay?”)
8. Dirk Gently (“Everything is connected.”)
9. Professor Peter Shandy (“I am rife with meaning. All will be revealed.”)
10. SS-Sturmbannführer Xavier March of the Berlin Kriminalpolizei ("‘Yes,’ he said. No, he thought.")
11. Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden (“The building was on fire. It wasn’t my fault.”)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60420 "2018-07-25T18:55:57Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)
7. Nero Wolfe (“I am nobody’s friend. How much can you pay?”)
8. Dirk Gently (“Everything is connected.”)
9. Professor Peter Shandy (“I am rife with meaning. All will be revealed.”)
10. SS-Sturmbannführer Xavier March of the Berlin Kriminalpolizei ("‘Yes,’ he said. No, he thought.")
11. Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden (“The building was on fire. It wasn’t my fault.”)
12. Miss Marple (“It really is very dangerous to believe people. I never have for years.”)

Agatha Christie’s more realistic detective

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60421 "2018-07-25T19:13:31Z")

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Favorite fictional detectives

1. Lt. Columbo (“Just one more thing. I couldn’t help but notice…”)
2. Hercule Poirot (“these little grey cells. It’s up to them.”)
3. Jim Rockford ("This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I’ll get back to you.’)
4. Kinsey Milhone (“My name is Kinsey Millhone. I’m a private investigator, licensed by the state of California.")
5. Sherlock Holmes (“How often have I said that when you have excluded the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
6. Encyclopedia Brown (Brown Detective Agency - 13 Rover Avenue - Leroy Brown, President - No case too small - 25¢ per day plus expenses)
7. Nero Wolfe (“I am nobody’s friend. How much can you pay?”)
8. Dirk Gently (“Everything is connected.”)
9. Professor Peter Shandy (“I am rife with meaning. All will be revealed.”)
10. SS-Sturmbannführer Xavier March of the Berlin Kriminalpolizei ("‘Yes,’ he said. No, he thought.")
11. Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden (“The building was on fire. It wasn’t my fault.”)
12. Miss Marple (“It really is very dangerous to believe people. I never have for years.”)
13. Philip Marlowe (“I needed a drink, I needed a lot of life insurance, I needed a vacation, I needed a home in the country. What I had was a coat, a hat and a gun. I put them on and went out of the room.”)

New:

Great Plot Twists

1. The Empire Strikes Back: Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s son

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60422 "2018-07-25T19:18:42Z")

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Great Plot Twists

1. The Empire Strikes Back: Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s son
2. The Sixth Sense: Dr. Crowe has another 40 years of life to look forward to

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60423 "2018-07-25T19:22:37Z")

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Great Plot Twists

1. The Empire Strikes Back: Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s son
2. The Sixth Sense: Dr. Crowe has another 40 years of life to look forward to
3. _The Crying Game_: Miranda Richardson is the lead actress

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60424 "2018-07-25T19:28:47Z")

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1. The Empire Strikes Back: Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s son
2. The Sixth Sense: Dr. Crowe has another 40 years of life to look forward to
3. The Crying Game: Miranda Richardson is the lead actress
4. Sleuth: There are lots of different characters in this movie.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60425 "2018-07-25T19:30:16Z")

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1. The Empire Strikes Back: Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s son
2. The Sixth Sense: Dr. Crowe has another 40 years of life to look forward to
3. The Crying Game: Miranda Richardson is the lead actress
4. Sleuth: There are lots of different characters in this movie.
5. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: “I am Kendra, the vampire slayer.”

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/60426 "2018-07-25T19:31:49Z")

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Great Plot Twists

1. The Empire Strikes Back: Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s son
2. The Sixth Sense: Dr. Crowe has another 40 years of life to look forward to
3. The Crying Game: Miranda Richardson is the lead actress
4. Sleuth: There are lots of different characters in this movie.
5. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: “I am Kendra, the vampire slayer.”
6. Sleepaway Camp: "How can it be? My God, she’s a boy!”  
Spoilers!

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