# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 313
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6242 "2011-06-28T13:00:15Z")
sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6243 "2011-06-28T13:53:13Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City London gets around, baby: [List of twin towns and sister cities in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twin_towns_in_the_United_Kingdom#London) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6244 "2011-06-28T14:34:33Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City 7. Ronneby Sweden and Enfield, CT United States Note: until I saw this catagory, I’d never heard of sister cities. ---
**Author:** ![janis\_and\_c0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janis_and_c0/32/21_2.png) [@janis\_and\_c0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janis_and_c0)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6245 "2011-06-28T16:05:32Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City 7. Ronneby Sweden and Enfield, CT United States 8. Columbus, OH, USA and Genoa, Italy ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6246 "2011-06-28T16:48:23Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City 7. Ronneby Sweden and Enfield, CT United States 8. Columbus, OH, USA and Genoa, Italy 9. Houston, TX and Stavanger, Norway ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6247 "2011-06-28T20:12:33Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City 7. Ronneby Sweden and Enfield, CT United States 8. Columbus, OH, USA and Genoa, Italy 9. Houston, TX and Stavanger, Norway 10. Cleveland, Ohio and Alexandria, Egypt ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6248 "2011-06-28T20:20:16Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City 7. Ronneby Sweden and Enfield, CT United States 8. Columbus, OH, USA and Genoa, Italy 9. Houston, TX and Stavanger, Norway 10. Cleveland, Ohio and Alexandria, Egypt 11. Jersey City, NJ and Weehawken, NJ ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6249 "2011-06-28T21:55:23Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City 7. Ronneby Sweden and Enfield, CT United States 8. Columbus, OH, USA and Genoa, Italy 9. Houston, TX and Stavanger, Norway 10. Cleveland, Ohio and Alexandria, Egypt 11. Jersey City, NJ and Weehawken, NJ 12. Lafayette, IN and Ota City, Japan ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6250 "2011-06-28T22:56:12Z")
Sister cities 1: Alba, Italy and Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 2: Rochester, NY, USA and Krakow, Poland 3. Peoria IL USA & Benxi, China 4. Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Chicago, Illinois, USA 5. Toledo, Ohio and Toledo, Spain 6. London, England and New York City 7. Ronneby Sweden and Enfield, CT United States 8. Columbus, OH, USA and Genoa, Italy 9. Houston, TX and Stavanger, Norway 10. Cleveland, Ohio and Alexandria, Egypt 11. Jersey City, NJ and Weehawken, NJ 12. Lafayette, IN and Ota City, Japan 13. Salt Lake City, UT and Sarajevo, Bosnia & Herzegovina Next up: United States Cult Leaders 1. [James Jesse Strang](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Strang), Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6251 "2011-06-28T23:47:26Z")
Next up: United States Cult Leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6252 "2011-06-29T01:22:45Z")
Next up: United States Cult Leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. [Father Divine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Divine) (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission In spite of its UNICEF organization sounding name, it was a commune/cult. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6253 "2011-06-29T12:23:47Z")
Next up: United States Cult Leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. Father Divine (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission 4. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church (still in operation). ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6254 "2011-06-29T12:57:34Z")
Next up: United States Cult Leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. Father Divine (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission 4. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church (still in operation). 5. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology (still in operation). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6255 "2011-06-29T13:47:52Z")
United States cult leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. Father Divine (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission 4. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church (still in operation). 5. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology (still in operation). 6. Rev. Jim Jones, leader of the mass-suicidal Peoples Temple ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6256 "2011-06-29T14:13:01Z")
United States cult leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. Father Divine (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission 4. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church (still in operation). 5. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology (still in operation). 6. Rev. Jim Jones, leader of the mass-suicidal Peoples Temple 7. Stewart Trail, founder of the Forever Family, now the Church of Bible Understanding (my younger sister is mixed up with these fucking idiots) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6257 "2011-06-29T15:21:31Z")
United States cult leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. Father Divine (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission 4. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church (still in operation). 5. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology (still in operation). 6. Rev. Jim Jones, leader of the mass-suicidal Peoples Temple 7. Stewart Trail, founder of the Forever Family, now the Church of Bible Understanding 8. Joseph Smith, Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints Well, it was a cult back then… ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6258 "2011-06-29T15:27:00Z")
United States cult leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. Father Divine (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission 4. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church (still in operation). 5. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology (still in operation). 6. Rev. Jim Jones, leader of the mass-suicidal Peoples Temple 7. Stewart Trail, founder of the Forever Family, now the Church of Bible Understanding 8. Joseph Smith, Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints 9. Marshall Applewhite, leader of suicidal Heaven’s Gate comet cult ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6259 "2011-06-29T17:51:17Z")
United States cult leaders 1. James Jesse Strang, Mormon apostate and self styled King of Beaver Island, Michigan 2. David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians 3. Father Divine (probably born George Baker, Jr.), founder of the International Peace Mission 4. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church (still in operation). 5. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology (still in operation). 6. Rev. Jim Jones, leader of the mass-suicidal Peoples Temple 7. Stewart Trail, founder of the Forever Family, now the Church of Bible Understanding 8. Joseph Smith, Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints 9. Marshall Applewhite, leader of suicidal Heaven’s Gate comet cult 10. David Berg, founder of [The Family International](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_God_%28cult%29) (aka Children of God) They’re most notorious for “flirty fishing”- using sex and even child pornography to get converts. Berg died of natural causes but the cult is still around. The most famous followers are the parents of the Phoenix sibling (Joaquin, River, Rain, etc.). I don’t know if the actors are still involved. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6260 "2011-06-29T18:14:31Z")
River Phoenix died a few years ago ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6261 "2011-06-29T22:12:13Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > River Phoenix died a few years ago Yes, but his siblings are still alive (I don’t know if their parents are) and I don’t know if they’re still involved with the cult. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=312) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=314)