# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62887 "2018-11-27T18:19:43Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald

It’s kind of a thing for assassins, so they’re not confused with others of the same first and last names.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62888 "2018-11-27T18:20:51Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62889 "2018-11-27T18:20:55Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62890 "2018-11-27T18:24:49Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> It’s kind of a thing for assassins, so they’re not confused with others of the same first and last names.

It isn’t really. It’s just a public perception. In his lifetime, Oswald was just known as Lee Oswald. Nobody used his middle name.

But when he assassinated Kennedy, the police identified him by his full name which was standard practice. So millions of people heard him identified as Lee Harvey Oswald.

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62891 "2018-11-27T18:27:07Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman
7. Tommy Lee Jones

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62892 "2018-11-27T18:30:25Z")

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That’s why it persists in the public mind, but the reason police use, and used, the full name under those circumstances is to distinguish that person from others of the same first and last name.

People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman
7. Tommy Lee Jones
8. Arthur Conan Doyle

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62893 "2018-11-27T18:52:37Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman
7. Tommy Lee Jones
8. Arthur Conan Doyle
9. J.K. Rowling

She actually has no middle name but chose J.K. for her pen name.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62894 "2018-11-27T18:57:27Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman
7. Tommy Lee Jones
8. Arthur Conan Doyle
9. J.K. Rowling
10. Mary Ann Mobley

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62895 "2018-11-27T19:04:43Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman
7. Tommy Lee Jones
8. Arthur Conan Doyle
9. J.K. Rowling
10. Mary Ann Mobley
11. Ruth Bader Ginsburg

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**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62896 "2018-11-27T19:32:24Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman
7. Tommy Lee Jones
8. Arthur Conan Doyle
9. J.K. Rowling
10. Mary Ann Mobley
11. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
12. Helena Bonham Carter

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62897 "2018-11-27T19:40:19Z")

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People who are best known by their full name, including the middle name

1. John Quincy Adams
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.
3. James Earl Jones
4. Lee Harvey Oswald
5. John Wayne Gacy
6. Philip Seymour Hoffman
7. Tommy Lee Jones
8. Arthur Conan Doyle
9. J.K. Rowling
10. Mary Ann Mobley
11. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
12. Helena Bonham Carter
13. Robert Louis Stevenson

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62898 "2018-11-27T20:33:34Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard

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**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62899 "2018-11-27T21:07:49Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62900 "2018-11-27T21:17:07Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth
4. The Man Who Fell to Earth

I saw it many years ago (on VHS to give you a sense of how long ago). I was reminded of it when David Bowie died and thought I should rewatch it but didn’t get around to it. Now I’m reminded of it again with Nicolas Roeg’s death.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62901 "2018-11-27T21:35:11Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth
4. The Man Who Fell to Earth
5. WALL-E

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62902 "2018-11-27T21:52:03Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth
4. The Man Who Fell to Earth
5. WALL-E
6. Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62903 "2018-11-28T03:18:05Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth
4. The Man Who Fell to Earth
5. WALL-E
6. Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead
7. Pride & Prejudice

The 2005 version, naturally.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62904 "2018-11-28T03:37:18Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth
4. The Man Who Fell to Earth
5. WALL-E
6. Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead
7. Pride & Prejudice
8. Full Metal Jacket

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62905 "2018-11-28T04:13:08Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth
4. The Man Who Fell to Earth
5. WALL-E
6. Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead
7. Pride & Prejudice
8. Full Metal Jacket
9. The Dresser

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/62906 "2018-11-28T04:13:21Z")

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Movies you’ve been meaning to see again, but haven’t quite gotten around to.

1. Trading Places
2. Sunset Boulevard
3. Pan’s Labyrinth
4. The Man Who Fell to Earth
5. WALL-E
6. Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead
7. Pride & Prejudice
8. Full Metal Jacket
9. The Dresser
10. The American President

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