# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64588 "2019-03-11T20:32:10Z")

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Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64589 "2019-03-11T20:47:34Z")

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Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC
7. Colonel Russel Williams, Canadian Forces

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64590 "2019-03-11T21:28:50Z")

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Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC
7. Colonel Russel Williams, Canadian Forces
8. Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, U. S. Navy

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64591 "2019-03-11T22:14:49Z")

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Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC
7. Colonel Russel Williams, Canadian Forces
8. Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, U. S. Navy
9. Donald J. Trump, Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64592 "2019-03-12T00:12:12Z")

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Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC
7. Colonel Russel Williams, Canadian Forces
8. Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, U. S. Navy
9. Donald J. Trump, Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces
10. Vice Admiral C. Everett Koop, United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps

> **[United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Public_Health_Service_Commissioned_Corps)**
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> The United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (PHSCC), also referred to as the Commissioned Corps of the United States Public Health Service, is the federal uniformed service of the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) and one of the eight uniformed services of the United States. The commissioned corps' primary mission is the protection, promotion, and advancement of health and safety of the general public.
> Along with the NOAA Commissioned Officer Corps, the Public Health Service Commis...

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64593 "2019-03-12T13:29:24Z")

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Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC
7. Colonel Russel Williams, Canadian Forces
8. Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, U. S. Navy
9. Donald J. Trump, Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces
10. Vice Admiral C. Everett Koop, United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps
11. General Dwight D. Eisenhower

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64594 "2019-03-12T13:31:38Z")

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Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC
7. Colonel Russel Williams, Canadian Forces
8. Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, U. S. Navy
9. Donald J. Trump, Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces
10. Vice Admiral C. Everett Koop, United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps
11. General Dwight D. Eisenhower
12. Colonel James Stewart, US Army Air Corps.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64595 "2019-03-12T14:06:32Z")

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The President is not a military officer, despite his title as CINC. He’s a civilian. But I’ll let it stand.

Military officers not best known for battlefield command

1. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army
2. Colin Powell, U.S. Army
3. Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, French Army
4. Lieutenant Colonel John Glenn, USMC
5. Henry Knox, Continental Army
6. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC
7. Colonel Russell Williams, Canadian Forces
8. Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, U. S. Navy
9. Donald J. Trump, Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces
10. Vice Admiral C. Everett Koop, United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps
11. General Dwight D. Eisenhower
12. Colonel James Stewart, US Army Air Corps.
13. Lew Wallace, U.S. Army

A Civil War general of some distinction, but best-known these days for writing _Ben-Hur_: [Lew Wallace - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Wallace)

Pass.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64596 "2019-03-12T14:07:56Z")

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A “Lew Wallace” idea: Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64597 "2019-03-12T14:21:20Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas

> **[The Robe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Robe)**
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> The Robe is a 1942 historical novel about the Crucifixion of Jesus, written by Lloyd C. Douglas. The book was one of the best-selling titles of the 1940s. It entered the New York Times Best Seller list in October 1942, four weeks later rose to No. 1, and held the position for nearly a year. The Robe remained on the list for another two years, returning several other times over the next several years including when the film adaptation (featuring Richard Burton in an early role) was released in 19...

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64598 "2019-03-12T14:29:16Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64599 "2019-03-12T14:48:56Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer

A short story in which a young Pontius Pilate helps Mary and Joseph on their way to Bethlehem.

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64600 "2019-03-12T18:27:27Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64601 "2019-03-12T19:30:46Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist
6. The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George Speare

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64602 "2019-03-12T22:06:03Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist
6. The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George Speare
7. The Nativity Story; film

Mary and Joseph are the lead characters.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64603 "2019-03-12T22:37:51Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist
6. The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George Speare
7. The Nativity Story; film
8. I, Claudius by Robert Graves

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64604 "2019-03-13T04:54:41Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist
6. The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George Speare
7. The Nativity Story; film
8. I, Claudius by Robert Graves
9. Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore

Not nearly as funny as I thought it ought to be.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64605 "2019-03-13T13:21:07Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist
6. The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George Speare
7. The Nativity Story; film
8. I, Claudius by Robert Graves
9. Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore
10. Caligula; film  
Caligula was the Roman emperor from AD 37 - AD 41, so it was right around that time.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64606 "2019-03-13T13:58:48Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist
6. The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George Speare
7. The Nativity Story; film
8. I, Claudius by Robert Graves
9. Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore
10. Caligula; film
11. Dear and Glorious Physician by Taylor Caldwell

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/64607 "2019-03-13T14:02:31Z")

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Fiction set in Jesus’s time where he is not the lead character

1. Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace
2. The Robe by Lloyd C. Douglas
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. The First Miracle by Jeffrey Archer
5. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist
6. The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George Speare
7. The Nativity Story; film
8. I, Claudius by Robert Graves
9. Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore
10. Caligula; film
11. Dear and Glorious Physician by Taylor Caldwell
12. Iscariot: A Novel of Judas by Tosca Lee

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