# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3252
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65028 "2019-04-06T13:47:45Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65029 "2019-04-06T13:51:56Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine Probably the most important forgery in history. ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65030 "2019-04-06T14:47:18Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65031 "2019-04-06T20:55:54Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65032 "2019-04-06T21:31:05Z")
**Bayaker** , as to the Hitler Diaries, you should read this, if you haven’t already - darkly funny and very interesting: [https://www.amazon.com/Selling-Hitler-Classic-Account-Diaries/dp/009979151X/ref=sr\_1\_1?keywords=harris+selling+hitler&qid=1554586093&s=books&sr=1-1-catcorr](https://www.amazon.com/Selling-Hitler-Classic-Account-Diaries/dp/009979151X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=harris+selling+hitler&qid=1554586093&s=books&sr=1-1-catcorr) Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man 7. Cragg Vale Coiners > **[Cragg Vale Coiners](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cragg_Vale_Coiners)** > > The Cragg Vale Coiners, sometimes the Yorkshire Coiners, were a band of counterfeiters in England, based in Cragg Vale, near Hebden Bridge, West Riding of Yorkshire. They produced fake gold coins in the late 18th century to supplement small incomes from weaving. > Led by "King" David Hartley, the Coiners obtained real coins from publicans, sometimes on the promise that they could "grow" the investment by smelting the original metals with base ores. They removed the coins' genuine edges and mill... ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65033 "2019-04-06T21:46:45Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man 7. Cragg Vale Coiners 8. Han van Meegeren - Forged many paintings supposedly by Dutch artists, often Vermeer ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65034 "2019-04-07T01:01:03Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man 7. Cragg Vale Coiners 8. Han van Meegeren - Forged many paintings supposedly by Dutch artists, often Vermeer 9. Age 20, Michelangelo sculpted a statue of cupid, and passed it off as an antique. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65035 "2019-04-07T03:07:14Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man 7. Cragg Vale Coiners 8. Han van Meegeren - Forged many paintings supposedly by Dutch artists, often Vermeer 9. Age 20, Michelangelo sculpted a statue of cupid, and passed it off as an antique. 10. Operation Bernhard, a Nazi program to counterfeit British paper currency > **[Operation Bernhard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bernhard)** > > Operation Bernhard was an exercise by Nazi Germany to forge British bank notes. The initial plan was to drop the notes over Britain to bring about a collapse of the British economy during the Second World War. The first phase was run from early 1940 by the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) under the title Unternehmen Andreas (Operation Andreas). The unit successfully duplicated the rag paper used by the British, produced near-identical engraving blocks and deduced the algorithm used to create the alpha-nu... ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65036 "2019-04-07T04:06:56Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man 7. Cragg Vale Coiners 8. Han van Meegeren - Forged many paintings supposedly by Dutch artists, often Vermeer 9. Age 20, Michelangelo sculpted a statue of cupid, and passed it off as an antique. 10. Operation Bernhard, a Nazi program to counterfeit British paper currency 11. Age 16, in 1769, Thomas Chatterton forged and “discovered” poems supposedly by Thomas Rowley, a medieval monk Chatterton committed suicide the next year and was considered a tragic hero by generations of artists after his: > **[The Death of Chatterton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Chatterton)** > > The Death of Chatterton is an oil painting on canvas, by the English Pre-Raphaelite painter Henry Wallis (1830 - 1916), now in Tate Britain, London. Two smaller versions, sketches or replicas, are possessed by the Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery and the Yale Center for British Art. The Tate painting measures 62.2 centimetres (24.5 in) by 93.3 centimetres (36.7 in), and was completed during 1856. > The subject of the painting was the 17-year-old English early Romantic poet Thomas Chatterton (17... ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65037 "2019-04-07T13:19:43Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man 7. Cragg Vale Coiners 8. Han van Meegeren - Forged many paintings supposedly by Dutch artists, often Vermeer 9. Age 20, Michelangelo sculpted a statue of cupid, and passed it off as an antique. 10. Operation Bernhard, a Nazi program to counterfeit British paper currency 11. Age 16, in 1769, Thomas Chatterton forged and “discovered” poems supposedly by Thomas Rowley, a medieval monk 12. _Vortigern and Rowena_ by [del]William Shakespeare[/del] William Ireland ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65038 "2019-04-07T13:40:59Z")
Famous Forgeries 1. On this day in 1903, French Army Nationalists are revealed to have forged documents to guarantee a conviction for Alfred Dreyfus. 2. 1971, Clifford Irving forged an autobiography of Howard Hughes. 3. The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion 4. The Donation of Constantine 5. The Hitler Diaries 6. Piltdown Man 7. Cragg Vale Coiners 8. Han van Meegeren - Forged many paintings supposedly by Dutch artists, often Vermeer 9. Age 20, Michelangelo sculpted a statue of cupid, and passed it off as an antique. 10. Operation Bernhard, a Nazi program to counterfeit British paper currency 11. Age 16, in 1769, Thomas Chatterton forged and “discovered” poems supposedly by Thomas Rowley, a medieval monk 12. _Vortigern and Rowena_ by [del]William Shakespeare[/del] William Ireland 13. An Historic and Geographical Description of Formosa by George Psalmanazar next category: City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65039 "2019-04-07T14:07:19Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65040 "2019-04-07T14:27:35Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65041 "2019-04-07T14:31:22Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria 4. Splott, Wales ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65042 "2019-04-07T15:00:11Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria 4. Splott, Wales 5. Stratford, England ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65043 "2019-04-07T17:38:07Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria 4. Splott, Wales 5. Stratford, England 6. Shreveport, Louisiana ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65044 "2019-04-07T17:46:43Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria 4. Splott, Wales 5. Stratford, England 6. Shreveport, Louisiana 7. Springfield, Illinois ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65045 "2019-04-07T17:47:46Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria 4. Splott, Wales 5. Stratford, England 6. Shreveport, Louisiana 7. Springfield, Illinois 8. Phnom Penh, Cambodia ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65046 "2019-04-07T18:13:09Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria 4. Splott, Wales 5. Stratford, England 6. Shreveport, Louisiana 7. Springfield, Illinois 8. Phnom Penh, Cambodia 9. Crna Trava, Serbia ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65047 "2019-04-07T18:25:36Z")
City names beginning with at least 3 consonants 1. Christchurch, NZ 2. Szczecin, Poland 3. Schwechat, Austria 4. Splott, Wales 5. Stratford, England 6. Shreveport, Louisiana 7. Springfield, Illinois 8. Phnom Penh, Cambodia 9. Crna Trava, Serbia 10. N’Djamena, Chad [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3251) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3253)