# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3261
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65208 "2019-04-16T15:32:36Z")
Mountains and the first people to summit them 1. Annapurna, Maurice Herzog and Louis Lachenal (1950) 2. K2, Lino Lacedelli and Achille Compagnoni (1954) 3. Mont Blanc, Jacques Balmat and Michel Paccard (1786) 4. Everest, Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay (1953) 5. Kilimanjaro, Hans Meyer and Ludwig Purtscheller (1889) 6. Matterhorn, Edward Whymper and party (1865) 7. Mount Kinabalu, Hugh Low (1851) 8. Pike’s Peak, Edwin James and two others (1820) 9. Denali, Hudson Stuck and party (1913) 10. Aconcagua, Matthias Zurbriggen (1897) 11. Vinson Massif, Nicholas Clinch and team (1966) 12. Mount Sefton, Edward FitzGerald and Matthias Zurbriggen (1895) Each of these 2 has other first ascents ---
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Mountains and the first people to summit them 1. Annapurna, Maurice Herzog and Louis Lachenal (1950) 2. K2, Lino Lacedelli and Achille Compagnoni (1954) 3. Mont Blanc, Jacques Balmat and Michel Paccard (1786) 4. Everest, Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay (1953) 5. Kilimanjaro, Hans Meyer and Ludwig Purtscheller (1889) 6. Matterhorn, Edward Whymper and party (1865) 7. Mount Kinabalu, Hugh Low (1851) 8. Pike’s Peak, Edwin James and two others (1820) 9. Denali, Hudson Stuck and party (1913) 10. Aconcagua, Matthias Zurbriggen (1897) 11. Vinson Massif, Nicholas Clinch and team (1966) 12. Mount Sefton, Edward FitzGerald and Matthias Zurbriggen (1895) 13. Jengish Chokusu, Vitaly Abalakov (1956) New category: Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas ---
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Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader. ---
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Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65212 "2019-04-16T18:27:11Z")
Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65213 "2019-04-16T19:11:19Z")
Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond ---
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Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65215 "2019-04-16T20:29:52Z")
Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God 7. In the Line of Fire - Booth falls to his death ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65216 "2019-04-16T20:47:43Z")
Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God 7. In the Line of Fire - Booth falls to his death 8. Breakdown - J.T. Walsh gets squashed by a semi truck cab. ---
**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65217 "2019-04-16T21:54:30Z")
Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God 7. In the Line of Fire - Booth falls to his death 8. Breakdown - J.T. Walsh gets squashed by a semi truck cab. 9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - Valance (Lee Marvin) is killed by Tom Doniphon (John Wayne), not by Ranse Stoddard (James Stewart). ---
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Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God 7. In the Line of Fire - Booth falls to his death 8. Breakdown - J.T. Walsh gets squashed by a semi truck cab. 9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - Valance (Lee Marvin) is killed by Tom Doniphon (John Wayne), not by Ranse Stoddard (James Stewart). 10. _A Bug’s Life_ - Hopper gets [del]arrested for child molesting and killed in prison[/del] eaten by a bird. ---
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Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God 7. In the Line of Fire - Booth falls to his death 8. Breakdown - J.T. Walsh gets squashed by a semi truck cab. 9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - Valance (Lee Marvin) is killed by Tom Doniphon (John Wayne), not by Ranse Stoddard (James Stewart). 10. _A Bug’s Life_ - Hopper gets [del]arrested for child molesting and killed in prison[/del] eaten by a bird. 11. The Beastmaster - a ferret kills the villain in a suicidal assault. ---
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Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God 7. In the Line of Fire - Booth falls to his death 8. Breakdown - J.T. Walsh gets squashed by a semi truck cab. 9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - Valance (Lee Marvin) is killed by Tom Doniphon (John Wayne), not by Ranse Stoddard (James Stewart). 10. A Bug’s Life - Hopper gets arrested for child molesting and killed in prison eaten by a bird. 11. The Beastmaster - a ferret kills the villain in a suicidal assault. 12. Die Hard - terrorist Hans Gruber plummets to his death in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65221 "2019-04-17T13:21:39Z")
Movies in which the villain is killed, but not by the hero 1. The Lion King - Scar is killed by the hyenas 2. Return of the Jedi - The Emperor is thrown down the shaft by Darth Vader 3. Men in Black - The Edgar Bug is killed by Laurel. (At least, the half with the head is). 4. The Shining - Jack Torrance freezes to death while tracking his son 5. From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb is shot by Tatiana Romanova while trying to kill James Bond 6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Nazis melted by the wrath of God 7. In the Line of Fire - Booth falls to his death 8. Breakdown - J.T. Walsh gets squashed by a semi truck cab. 9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - Valance (Lee Marvin) is killed by Tom Doniphon (John Wayne), not by Ranse Stoddard (James Stewart). 10. A Bug’s Life - Hopper gets arrested for child molesting and killed in prison / eaten by a bird. 11. The Beastmaster - a ferret kills the villain in a suicidal assault. 12. Die Hard - terrorist Hans Gruber plummets to his death in the end. 13. Witness for the Prosecution - Bad guy stabbed to death by his wife, not the lawyer/hero Next category: Serious fires 1. Notre Dame de Paris, April 2019 ---
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Serious fires 1. Notre Dame de Paris, April 2019 2. World Trade Center Towers, September 11, 2001 ---
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Serious fires 1. Notre Dame de Paris, April 2019 2. World Trade Center Towers, September 11, 2001 3. Great Chicago Fire, October 1871 ---
**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65224 "2019-04-17T13:39:37Z")
Serious fires 1. Notre Dame de Paris, April 2019 2. World Trade Center Towers, September 11, 2001 3. Great Chicago Fire, October 1871 4. Casino Barrière de Montreux, December 1971 Memorialized in the song “Smoke on the Water” by Deep Purple ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65225 "2019-04-17T13:48:24Z")
1. Notre Dame de Paris, April 2019 2. World Trade Center Towers, September 11, 2001 3. Great Chicago Fire, October 1871 4. Casino Barrière de Montreux, December 1971 5. Great Boston Fire November 9 & 10, 1872 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/65226 "2019-04-17T14:09:20Z")
Serious fires 1. Notre Dame de Paris, April 2019 2. World Trade Center Towers, September 11, 2001 3. Great Chicago Fire, October 1871 4. Casino Barrière de Montreux, December 1971 5. Great Boston Fire, November 9 & 10, 1872 6. Iroquois Theatre, Chicago, Dec. 30, 1903 > **[Iroquois Theatre fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois_Theatre_fire)** > > The Iroquois Theatre fire occurred on December 30, 1903, at the Iroquois Theatre in Chicago. It is one of the deadliest single-building fires in U.S. history, resulting in 602 deaths. > The Iroquois Theatre was located at 24–28 West Randolph Street, between State Street and Dearborn Street. The syndicate that bankrolled its construction chose the location specifically to attract women on day trips from out of town who, it was thought, would be more comfortable attending a theater near the polic... ---
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Serious fires 1. Notre Dame de Paris, April 2019 2. World Trade Center Towers, September 11, 2001 3. Great Chicago Fire, October 1871 4. Casino Barrière de Montreux, December 1971 5. Great Boston Fire, November 9 & 10, 1872 6. Iroquois Theatre, Chicago, Dec. 30, 1903 7. [Hartford circus fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_circus_fire), July 6, 1944 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3260) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3262)