# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 330
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6582 "2011-07-19T02:41:33Z")
Other moons, with the names of their planets 1. Triton; Neptune 2. Io; Jupiter 3. Enceladus; Saturn 4. Phobos: Mars 5. Charon; Pluto 6. Ganymede: Jupiter 7. Oberon, Uranus 8. Deimos; Mars 9. Weywot: Quaoar 10. Titan, Saturn ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6583 "2011-07-19T04:23:35Z")
Other moons, with the names of their planets 1. Triton; Neptune 2. Io; Jupiter 3. Enceladus; Saturn 4. Phobos: Mars 5. Charon; Pluto 6. Ganymede: Jupiter 7. Oberon, Uranus 8. Deimos; Mars 9. Weywot: Quaoar 10. Titan, Saturn 11. Dysnomia; Eris (aka Gabrielle; Xena) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6584 "2011-07-19T05:26:27Z")
Other moons, with the names of their planets 1. Triton; Neptune 2. Io; Jupiter 3. Enceladus; Saturn 4. Phobos: Mars 5. Charon; Pluto 6. Ganymede: Jupiter 7. Oberon, Uranus 8. Deimos; Mars 9. Weywot: Quaoar 10. Titan, Saturn 11. Dysnomia; Eris (aka Gabrielle; Xena) 12. Margaret: Uranus ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6585 "2011-07-19T06:18:17Z")
Other moons, with the names of their planets 1. Triton; Neptune 2. Io; Jupiter 3. Enceladus; Saturn 4. Phobos: Mars 5. Charon; Pluto 6. Ganymede: Jupiter 7. Oberon, Uranus 8. Deimos; Mars 9. Weywot: Quaoar 10. Titan, Saturn 11. Dysnomia; Eris (aka Gabrielle; Xena) 12. Margaret: Uranus 13. Nereid; Neptune New category: Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. _A History of Violence_ (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6586 "2011-07-19T15:11:39Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. “A History of Violence” (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. “The Conqueror” (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne The Perfect Master speaks: [Did John Wayne die of cancer caused by a radioactive movie set? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/374/did-john-wayne-die-of-cancer-caused-by-a-radioactive-movie-set) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6587 "2011-07-19T15:12:43Z")
New category: Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. _A History of Violence_ (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. “The Conqueror” (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. _By Love Possessed_ (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight Nine hours without a post and then I get ninja’ed. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6588 "2011-07-19T17:27:15Z")
New category: Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. _A History of Violence_ (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. “The Conqueror” (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. _By Love Possessed_ (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. _The Crow_ (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming Contrary to urban legend the death footage was not included. His unfilmed scenes were rescripted so that they could be shot with stand-ins, early CGI and footage he’d already filmed. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6589 "2011-07-19T17:57:03Z")
New category: Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. “The Conqueror” (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) _Unchained Melody_. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6590 "2011-07-19T18:21:05Z")
New category: Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. “The Conqueror” (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) _Unchained Melody_. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6591 "2011-07-19T19:31:00Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. The Conqueror (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) Unchained Melody. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. 7. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6592 "2011-07-19T20:39:11Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. The Conqueror (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) Unchained Melody. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. 7. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop 8. Total Eclipse (1995)- arthouse film about the relationship of Verlaine and Rimbaud that would have been forgotten had it not featured frontal and rear nudity by a young Leonardo DiCaprio. Stills of his nude scenes from the movie were sold to _Playgirl_ when Leo became really big after _Titanic_. He filed a lawsuit but the case was dismissed as the film’s owners had that right. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6593 "2011-07-19T21:35:32Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. The Conqueror (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) Unchained Melody. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. 7. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop 8. Total Eclipse (1995)- arthouse film about the relationship of Verlaine and Rimbaud that would have been forgotten had it not featured frontal and rear nudity by a young Leonardo DiCaprio. 9. Cattle Queen of Montana (1955) – Film is playing at the Essex Theater in Hill Valley as the story of _Back to the Future_ unfolds ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6594 "2011-07-20T00:40:03Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. The Conqueror (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) Unchained Melody. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. 7. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop 8. Total Eclipse (1995)- arthouse film about the relationship of Verlaine and Rimbaud that would have been forgotten had it not featured frontal and rear nudity by a young Leonardo DiCaprio. 9. Cattle Queen of Montana (1955) – Film is playing at the Essex Theater in Hill Valley as the story of _Back to the Future_ unfolds 10. War is Hell (1963) – Korean war film playing in The Texas Theater in Dallas when Lee Harvey Oswald hid in the audience after killing JFK. The film is so unremarkable that on [wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_Hell_(film)) only two of its many actors have their own wiki entries, and the only one you’ve probably heard of is Audie Murphy (who didn’t appear in it but did some narration). The theater has closed and reopened several times since November 22, 1963, but his seat is still there and duly marked. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6595 "2011-07-20T01:20:39Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. The Conqueror (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) Unchained Melody. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. 7. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop 8. Total Eclipse (1995)- arthouse film about the relationship of Verlaine and Rimbaud that would have been forgotten had it not featured frontal and rear nudity by a young Leonardo DiCaprio. 9. Cattle Queen of Montana (1955) – Film is playing at the Essex Theater in Hill Valley as the story of _Back to the Future_ unfolds 10. War is Hell (1963) – Korean war film playing in The Texas Theater in Dallas when Lee Harvey Oswald hid in the audience after killing JFK. 11. Sometimes a Great Notion (1971) - first movie broadcast on HBO ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6596 "2011-07-20T04:23:01Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. The Conqueror (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) Unchained Melody. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. 7. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop 8. Total Eclipse (1995)- arthouse film about the relationship of Verlaine and Rimbaud that would have been forgotten had it not featured frontal and rear nudity by a young Leonardo DiCaprio. 9. Cattle Queen of Montana (1955) – Film is playing at the Essex Theater in Hill Valley as the story of Back to the Future unfolds 10. War is Hell (1963) – Korean war film playing in The Texas Theater in Dallas when Lee Harvey Oswald hid in the audience after killing JFK. 11. Sometimes a Great Notion (1971) - first movie broadcast on HBO 12. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) - while actually a remarkable film and possibly not kosher for the spirit of the topic, it has various pieces of footage of ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookie’s [grandfather](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0873865/) in it as a stuntman/extra, which is unremarkable to most people besides my immediate family. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6597 "2011-07-20T04:54:35Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > 1. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop. That’s funny; I always thought that his first role was in _The Graduate_, when he played…a bellhop. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6598 "2011-07-20T05:18:58Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#): > > That’s funny; I always thought that his first role was in _The Graduate_, when he played…a bellhop. No, it was Richard Dreyfuss who made his film debut with a one-line part in _The Graduate_. Ford did audition for a part in _The Graduate_ but he didn’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6599 "2011-07-20T05:24:03Z")
Additional trivia. Mike Farrell (who would later appear in _MASH_) made his film debut in _The Graduate_ - playing a bell-hop. But it wasn’t his first acting role as he already had a few TV credits. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6600 "2011-07-20T05:24:22Z")
Otherwise unremarkable movies with unusual trivia about them 1. A History of Violence (2006) - last mainstream feature released on VHS 2. The Conqueror (1956) - nearby nuclear testing may have led to cancer deaths of many of cast and crew, incl. John Wayne 3. By Love Possessed (1961) - first movie shown on a commercial airflight 4. The Crow (1994)- star Brandon Lee killed while filming 5. Unchained (1955) – Best known feature is its theme song, callled (appropriately enough) Unchained Melody. Also notable for the fact that it was filmed in a prison, and that jazzman Dexter Gordon (who was serving time at the correctional facility for heroin possession) has an uncredited role as a member of the “house band”. 6. The Silver Chalice (1954) Paul Newman’s first movie. He hated it so much that years later when he learned it was to be shown on TV he took out newpaper ads warning how bad it was and begging people not to watch it. Of course that only propelled it to higher than expected ratings. 7. Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round (1966) - James Coburn action movie that marked Harrison Ford’s screen debut, playing a bellhop 8. Total Eclipse (1995)- arthouse film about the relationship of Verlaine and Rimbaud that would have been forgotten had it not featured frontal and rear nudity by a young Leonardo DiCaprio. 9. Cattle Queen of Montana (1955) – Film is playing at the Essex Theater in Hill Valley as the story of Back to the Future unfolds 10. War is Hell (1963) – Korean war film playing in The Texas Theater in Dallas when Lee Harvey Oswald hid in the audience after killing JFK. 11. Sometimes a Great Notion (1971) - first movie broadcast on HBO 12. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) - while actually a remarkable film and possibly not kosher for the spirit of the topic, it has various pieces of footage of ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookie’s [grandfather](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0873865/) in it as a stuntman/extra, which is unremarkable to most people besides my immediate family. 13. The Power of Love (1922)- the first movie known to have been shown with red-green 3D glasses Next: Fictional planets AND a famous native of said planet 1. Tatooine: Annakin Skywalker ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/6601 "2011-07-20T05:49:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, it was Richard Dreyfuss who made his film debut with a one-line part in _The Graduate_. > > Ford did audition for a part in _The Graduate_ but he didn’t get it. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=329) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=331)