# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66248 "2019-06-24T22:44:44Z")

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Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox

\> 10 yr. attendance change: -40.2%  
\> Avg. home game attendance: 21,828  
\> Avg. capacity filled: 53.7%

> **[Sports Teams Running out of Fans – 24/7 Wall St.](https://247wallst.com/special-report/2017/07/17/sports-teams-running-out-of-fans-2/5/)**
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> Each year, tens of millions of Americans pour into arenas, parks, rinks, and stadiums to see a professional sporting event in one of the four major American sports leagues — the NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB. But fans are now less inclined to go to games in...

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66249 "2019-06-25T01:20:16Z")

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Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays  
So much so that they’re actually proposing splitting the season, with the first half’s home games in Tampa and the second half’s in Montreal. This is not the solution.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66250 "2019-06-25T11:00:43Z")

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Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays
8. New York Islanders

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66251 "2019-06-25T11:02:47Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> So much so that they’re actually proposing splitting the season, with the first half’s home games in Tampa and the second half’s in Montreal. This is not the solution.

I’d agree. I’d love to see a team in Montreal again but this is not the way. Secondly, had the Expos had their own attendance problems.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66252 "2019-06-25T11:32:44Z")

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Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays
8. New York Islanders
9. LA Clippers

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66253 "2019-06-25T14:28:34Z")

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Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays
8. New York Islanders
9. LA Clippers
10. Washington Nationals

> **[Nationals Park is seeing its lowest fan attendance since 2011](https://www.federalbaseball.com/2019/5/2/18527020/washington-nationals-park-seeing-lowest-fan-attendance-since-2011)**
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> The Washington Nationals’ disappointing start to the season has been reflected by the number of fans in seats for their home games.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66254 "2019-06-25T14:35:13Z")

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Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays
8. New York Islanders
9. LA Clippers
10. Washington Nationals
11. Cleveland Monsters

The hockey team no one’s ever heard of.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66255 "2019-06-25T15:18:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest
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> 1. Cleveland Monsters
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> The hockey team no one’s ever heard of.

??? They wouldn’t be a “Major sports franchise” then, correct?

Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays
8. New York Islanders
9. LA Clippers
10. Washington Nationals
11. Florida Panthers

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66256 "2019-06-25T15:47:38Z")

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Well, they are an AHL team of \*some \*repute.

Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays
8. New York Islanders
9. LA Clippers
10. Washington Nationals
11. Florida Panthers
12. Cleveland Monsters

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66257 "2019-06-26T01:38:01Z")

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Major sports franchises that have very little fan interest

1. Miami Marlins
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Arizona Coyotes
4. New York Jets
5. Los Angeles Chargers
6. Chicago White Sox
7. Tampa Bay Rays
8. New York Islanders
9. LA Clippers
10. Washington Nationals
11. Florida Panthers
12. Cleveland Monsters
13. Columbus Blue Jackets

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66258 "2019-06-26T01:52:13Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Apolo Ohno

8 medals in the Winter Olympics

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66259 "2019-06-26T02:10:07Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Roberto Alomar

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66260 "2019-06-26T02:35:09Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Roberto Alomar
3. Lorena Ochoa

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66261 "2019-06-26T02:50:18Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Roberto Alomar
3. Lorena Ochoa
4. Apolo Ohno
5. Shaquille O’Neal

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66262 "2019-06-26T02:52:53Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Roberto Alomar
3. Lorena Ochoa
4. Apolo Ohno
5. Shaquille O’Neal
6. Muhammad Ali

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66263 "2019-06-26T03:17:45Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Roberto Alomar
3. Lorena Ochoa
4. Apolo Ohno
5. Shaquille O’Neal
6. Muhammad Ali
7. Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66264 "2019-06-26T03:19:55Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr

2. Roberto Alomar

3. Lorena Ochoa

4. Apolo Ohno

5. Shaquille O’Neal

6. Muhammad Ali

7. Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

8. David Ortiz

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66265 "2019-06-26T03:42:51Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr

2. Roberto Alomar

3. Lorena Ochoa

4. Apolo Ohno

5. Shaquille O’Neal

6. Muhammad Ali

7. Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

8. David Ortiz

9. Sadaharu Oh

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66266 "2019-06-26T04:20:00Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Roberto Alomar
3. Lorena Ochoa
4. Apolo Ohno
5. Shaquille O’Neal
6. Muhammad Ali
7. Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
8. David Ortiz
9. Sadaharu Oh
10. Ernie Els

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66267 "2019-06-26T04:25:17Z")

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Great athletes whose last name starts with a vowel.

1. Bobby Orr
2. Roberto Alomar
3. Lorena Ochoa
4. Apolo Ohno
5. Shaquille O’Neal
6. Muhammad Ali
7. Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
8. David Ortiz
9. Sadaharu Oh
10. Ernie Els
11. Hank Aaron

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