# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66828 "2019-07-24T18:53:49Z")

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Reasons (stupid) people give against same sex couples having or adopting children

1. The children will suffer sexual identity crisis
2. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
3. Gay people are more likely to sexually abuse children
4. Schoolmates will tease kids with two moms or two dads.
5. They are depriving straight normal couples the chance to adopt a child.
6. The gay couple will “indoctrinate” the kids to become gay
7. The kids will grow up to be socialists.
8. It’s against the law, or ought to be
9. It’s just not natural.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66829 "2019-07-24T18:55:31Z")

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Reasons (stupid) people give against same sex couples having or adopting children

1. The children will suffer sexual identity crisis
2. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
3. Gay people are more likely to sexually abuse children
4. Schoolmates will tease kids with two moms or two dads.
5. They are depriving straight normal couples the chance to adopt a child.
6. The gay couple will “indoctrinate” the kids to become gay
7. The kids will grow up to be socialists.
8. It’s against the law, or ought to be
9. It’s just not natural
10. Homosexuals shouldn’t even be out of the closet, let alone adopting kids

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66830 "2019-07-24T19:52:06Z")

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Reasons (stupid) people give against same sex couples having or adopting children

1. The children will suffer sexual identity crisis
2. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
3. Gay people are more likely to sexually abuse children
4. Schoolmates will tease kids with two moms or two dads.
5. They are depriving straight normal couples the chance to adopt a child.
6. The gay couple will “indoctrinate” the kids to become gay
7. The kids will grow up to be socialists.
8. It’s against the law, or ought to be
9. It’s just not natural
10. Homosexuals shouldn’t even be out of the closet, let alone adopting kids
11. Children belong with their birth parents, who shouldn’t be allowed to give them up.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66831 "2019-07-25T00:27:07Z")

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Reasons (stupid) people give against same sex couples having or adopting children

1. The children will suffer sexual identity crisis
2. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
3. Gay people are more likely to sexually abuse children
4. Schoolmates will tease kids with two moms or two dads.
5. They are depriving straight normal couples the chance to adopt a child.
6. The gay couple will “indoctrinate” the kids to become gay
7. The kids will grow up to be socialists.
8. It’s against the law, or ought to be
9. It’s just not natural
10. Homosexuals shouldn’t even be out of the closet, let alone adopting kids
11. Children belong with their birth parents, who shouldn’t be allowed to give them up.
12. Children need to have one parental role model of each gender

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66832 "2019-07-25T00:41:47Z")

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Reasons (stupid) people give against same sex couples having or adopting children

1. The children will suffer sexual identity crisis
2. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
3. Gay people are more likely to sexually abuse children
4. Schoolmates will tease kids with two moms or two dads.
5. They are depriving straight normal couples the chance to adopt a child.
6. The gay couple will “indoctrinate” the kids to become gay
7. The kids will grow up to be socialists.
8. It’s against the law, or ought to be
9. It’s just not natural
10. Homosexuals shouldn’t even be out of the closet, let alone adopting kids
11. Children belong with their birth parents, who shouldn’t be allowed to give them up.
12. Children need to have one parental role model of each gender
13. Same-sex partnerships are less stable

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66833 "2019-07-25T03:10:34Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66834 "2019-07-25T03:21:02Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66835 "2019-07-25T04:29:08Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66836 "2019-07-25T06:41:45Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66837 "2019-07-25T13:26:51Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66838 "2019-07-25T13:57:25Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.
7. Gay couples rarely have accidental pregnancies, so their children are almost always wanted.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66839 "2019-07-25T14:02:54Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.
7. Gay couples rarely have accidental pregnancies, so their children are almost always wanted.
8. Isn’t gay parenting better than abortion?

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66840 "2019-07-25T17:54:59Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.
7. Gay couples rarely have accidental pregnancies, so their children are almost always wanted.
8. Isn’t gay parenting better than abortion?
9. We already have many successful, stable adults who were raised by same-sex couples.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66841 "2019-07-25T18:31:05Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.
7. Gay couples rarely have accidental pregnancies, so their children are almost always wanted.
8. Isn’t gay parenting better than abortion?
9. We already have many successful, stable adults who were raised by same-sex couples.
10. The state should not encourage or truckle to irrational bigotry.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66842 "2019-07-25T18:54:38Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.
7. Gay couples rarely have accidental pregnancies, so their children are almost always wanted.
8. Isn’t gay parenting better than abortion?
9. We already have many successful, stable adults who were raised by same-sex couples.
10. The state should not encourage or truckle to irrational bigotry.
11. Any reason that’s good enough for an opposite sex couple is good enough for a same sex couple.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66843 "2019-07-25T19:02:36Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.
7. Gay couples rarely have accidental pregnancies, so their children are almost always wanted.
8. Isn’t gay parenting better than abortion?
9. We already have many successful, stable adults who were raised by same-sex couples.
10. The state should not encourage or truckle to irrational bigotry.
11. Any reason that’s good enough for an opposite sex couple is good enough for a same sex couple.
12. Any law singling out gay people, based solely on religious beliefs, is a violation of the First Amendment.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66844 "2019-07-25T21:06:05Z")

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Good reasons for same sex couples to have or adopt children

1. It’s better for a child to have two loving permanent parents than foster parents
2. Gay people are just as capable of being good parents as straight people
3. There are children that need parents, and people who would make good parents who are currently without children. Seems like there’s an obvious way to help both groups.
4. We are stronger when diversity is embraced and celebrated.
5. Many people in same-sex relationships already have children from previous relationships.
6. Most gays can have children, despite the claims that they cannot do so.
7. Gay couples rarely have accidental pregnancies, so their children are almost always wanted.
8. Isn’t gay parenting better than abortion?
9. We already have many successful, stable adults who were raised by same-sex couples.
10. The state should not encourage or truckle to irrational bigotry.
11. Any reason that’s good enough for an opposite sex couple is good enough for a same sex couple.
12. Any law singling out gay people, based solely on religious beliefs, is a violation of the First Amendment.
13. Being raised by gay parents isn’t any more likely to make a child gay

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Things Robert Mueller really was yearning to say in his Congressional testimony

1. “Grow a pair already, would you all?”

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66845 "2019-07-26T01:41:08Z")

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Things Robert Mueller really was yearning to say in his Congressional testimony

1. “Grow a pair already, would you all?”
2. “It’s Mueller time!”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66846 "2019-07-26T02:32:27Z")

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Things Robert Mueller really was yearning to say in his Congressional testimony

1. “Grow a pair already, would you all?”
2. “It’s Mueller time!”
3. “I’d like to answer this question if I may in two ways - firstly, in my normal voice, and then in a kind of silly high-pitched whine.”

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/66847 "2019-07-26T10:48:48Z")

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Things Robert Mueller really was yearning to say in his Congressional testimony

1. “Grow a pair already, would you all?”
2. “It’s Mueller time!”
3. “I’d like to answer this question if I may in two ways - firstly, in my normal voice, and then in a kind of silly high-pitched whine.”
4. “Let’s hurry up with this shit, I have a hot date with someone who’s not my wife.”

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