# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3369

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67368 "2019-08-15T19:19:07Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67369 "2019-08-15T19:29:51Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67370 "2019-08-15T19:31:05Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> 1. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao

Blasphemy!

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67371 "2019-08-15T19:48:35Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH
6. The Gong Show

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67372 "2019-08-15T20:57:36Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH
6. The Gong Show
7. Mickey Mouse

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67373 "2019-08-15T23:36:29Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH
6. The Gong Show
7. Mickey Mouse
8. Family Affair

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**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67374 "2019-08-15T23:47:13Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer

2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao

3. Billy Jack

4. Scooby Doo

5. MASH

6. The Gong Show

7. Mickey Mouse

8. Family Affair

9. Fantasy Island

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67375 "2019-08-16T01:30:04Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH
6. The Gong Show
7. Mickey Mouse
8. Family Affair
9. Fantasy Island
10. The Wild Wild West

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67376 "2019-08-16T01:51:54Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH
6. The Gong Show
7. Mickey Mouse
8. Family Affair
9. Fantasy Island
10. The Wild Wild West
11. The Jetsons Movie  
When Wreck-It Ralph came out, we rented it from a video store along with The Jetsons Movie. After watching “Ralph”, we couldn’t make it through ten minutes of “Jetsons”. It was so banal.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67377 "2019-08-16T03:38:34Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH
6. The Gong Show
7. Mickey Mouse
8. Family Affair
9. Fantasy Island
10. The Wild Wild West
11. The Jetsons Movie
12. Battlestar Galactica

The original.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67378 "2019-08-16T04:08:13Z")

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Books, movies, or TV shows you loved as a kid which don’t stand up to adult viewing

1. Speed Racer
2. Seven Faces of Dr. Lao
3. Billy Jack
4. Scooby Doo
5. MASH
6. The Gong Show
7. Mickey Mouse
8. Family Affair
9. Fantasy Island
10. The Wild Wild West
11. The Jetsons Movie
12. Battlestar Galactica
13. Kimba the White Lion

New  
People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein

“Autopsy Reportedly Shows Multiple Broken Neck Bones  
Among the broken bones was reportedly Epstein’s hyoid bone — a break more common in homicidal strangulations than suicide, The Washington Post said.”

> **[Jeffrey Epstein's Autopsy Reportedly Shows Multiple Broken Neck Bones](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-broken-neck-hyoid-bone_n_5d5501b7e4b0eb875f1f7a0f)**
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> A Washington Post story suggested the evidence pointed away from suicide, but medical experts are pushing back on that analysis.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67379 "2019-08-16T04:17:16Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67380 "2019-08-16T07:44:17Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67381 "2019-08-16T11:51:22Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa
4. Natalie Wood

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67382 "2019-08-16T12:01:43Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa
4. Natalie Wood
5. Sophocles

According to one legend, he choked to death on an unripe grape. Another says that he died of joy after hearing that his last play had been victorious. A third account reports that he died of suffocation after reading aloud a lengthy monologue from the end of his play Antigone without pausing to take a breath for commas or punctuation.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67383 "2019-08-16T13:04:27Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa
4. Natalie Wood
5. Sophocles
6. Jim Morrison

Death certificate states heart failure. No autopsy performed. Speculation is that it was a heroine overdose, but we’ll never know.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67384 "2019-08-16T13:11:52Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa
4. Natalie Wood
5. Sophocles
6. Jim Morrison
7. Michael Hutchence

Suicide or auto-erotic asphyxiation?

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67385 "2019-08-16T13:20:04Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa
4. Natalie Wood
5. Sophocles
6. Jim Morrison
7. Michael Hutchence
8. Cleopatra  
Poisoned, bitten by an asp, or forced to commit suicide by Octavian?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67386 "2019-08-16T13:35:40Z")

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1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa
4. Natalie Wood
5. Sophocles
6. Jim Morrison
7. Michael Hutchence
8. Cleopatra
9. Kurt Cobain

Seems to be some controversy on whether he was murdered or committed suicide.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67387 "2019-08-16T16:00:54Z")

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People whose cause of death is unknown, unclear or disputed

1. Jeffrey Epstein
2. JonBenet Ramsey
3. Jimmy Hoffa
4. Natalie Wood
5. Sophocles
6. Jim Morrison
7. Michael Hutchence
8. Cleopatra
9. Kurt Cobain
10. Amelia Earhart

Crashed, forced to ditch, starved to death on a remote Pacific island, killed by Japanese troops? We may never know.

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