# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3396

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67908 "2019-09-13T18:50:47Z")

</div>

Notable diplomats

1. Benjamin Franklin, US minister to the French royal court (American Revolution)
2. Dag Hammarskjöld, Swedish diplomat, author and economist, and second Secretary-General of the U.N.
3. Prince von Metternich, Austrian Diplomat, led the Congress of Vienna, architect of the “Balance of Power” in Europe that lasted (sorta-kinda) for a century.
4. Lester B. Pearson, Canadian prime minister who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1957 for organizing the United Nations Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis.
5. Vidkun Quisling - Norwegian diplomat to the Soviet Union managing British diplomatic affairs, later executed by firing squad after being found guilty of embezzlement, murder, and high treason against the Norwegian state.
6. Carlos P. Romulo - Philippines, served as President of the UN General Assembly. When the Soviet delegate called him “just a little man from a little country,” Romulo replied “It is the duty of the little Davids here to fling pebbles of truth between the eyes of blustering Goliaths—and make them behave.”
7. Ken Taylor, Canadian ambassador to Iran, who facilitated the escape of six Americans from Iran in 1980 (aka the “Canadian Caper”)
8. U Thant, Burmese diplomat, longest-serving Secretary-General of the United Nations, helped avert catastrophe during the Cuban Missile Crisis
9. Jimmy Carter - helped negotiate peace between Israel and Egypt in 1979
10. Charles Talleyrand - negotiated a surprisingly good deal for France at the Congress of Vienna
11. Joachim von Ribbentrop - negotiated Nazi Germany’s ‘Pact of Steel’ alliance with Italy, and the infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that set the stage for the invasion of Poland at the dawn of WW2
12. William H. Seward - US Secretary of State (1861-69); negotiated extraordinarily cheap purchase of Alaska from Russia 67973
13. Richard Holbrooke - negotiated 1995 peace agreement in Bosnia

Next - iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, _All the President’s Men_

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67909 "2019-09-13T19:29:11Z")

</div>

Next - iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67910 "2019-09-13T19:48:47Z")

</div>

iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67911 "2019-09-13T19:59:06Z")

</div>

iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67912 "2019-09-13T20:18:46Z")

</div>

iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67913 "2019-09-13T20:20:06Z")

</div>

iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog

“Look at that! That is a complete fucking fraud, and it looks a hundred percent real. It’s the best work I’ve ever done in my life, because it’s so honest.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67914 "2019-09-13T22:10:57Z")

</div>

iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog
7. [Lenny Bruce](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0CKoz0u6Eo), _Lenny_

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67915 "2019-09-13T23:30:10Z")

</div>

Iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog
7. Lenny Bruce, Lenny
8. Captain Hook, Hook

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67916 "2019-09-14T01:22:18Z")

</div>

Iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog
7. Lenny Bruce, Lenny
8. Captain Hook, Hook
9. Ted Kramer, Kramer vs. Kramer

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67917 "2019-09-14T01:59:56Z")

</div>

Iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog
7. Lenny Bruce, _Lenny_
8. Captain Hook, Hook
9. Ted Kramer, Kramer vs. Kramer
10. [Louis Dega](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XGWXmxmaoE), _Papillon_

Spoiler alert, I guess. It’s one of the final scenes of the movie. But come on, _Papillon_ came out in 1973. If you haven’t watched it yet, you probably weren’t going to.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67918 "2019-09-14T04:08:45Z")

</div>

Iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog
7. Lenny Bruce, Lenny
8. Captain Hook, Hook
9. Ted Kramer, Kramer vs. Kramer
10. Louis Dega, Papillon
11. Col. Sam Daniels, Outbreak

Too often overlooked - a taut biomedical thriller, and he’s very good in it, I thought: [Outbreak (film) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreak_(film))

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67919 "2019-09-14T13:01:44Z")

</div>

Iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog
7. Lenny Bruce, Lenny
8. Captain Hook, Hook
9. Ted Kramer, Kramer vs. Kramer
10. Louis Dega, Papillon
11. Col. Sam Daniels, Outbreak
12. Master Shifu, Kung Fu Panda

It’s great to see the looks on people’s faces when you talk about Dustin Hoffman as a kung fu master.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67920 "2019-09-14T14:52:26Z")

</div>

Iconic Dustin Hoffman roles

1. Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men
2. Benjamin Braddock, The Graduate
3. Michael Dorsey as Dorothy Michaels as Edward Kimberly as Emily Kimberly, Tootsie
4. Raymond “Ray” Babbitt in “Rain Man.”
5. Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy
6. Stanley Motss, Wag the Dog
7. Lenny Bruce, _Lenny_
8. Captain Hook, Hook
9. Ted Kramer, Kramer vs. Kramer
10. Louis Dega, _Papillon_
11. Col. Sam Daniels, Outbreak
12. Master Shifu, Kung Fu Panda
13. [Jack Crabb](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx0zC22C4RM), _Little Big Man_

I’ll pass

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67921 "2019-09-14T16:03:50Z")

</div>

Dollar store food items

1. 2.5 litre Faygo pop

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67922 "2019-09-15T02:26:18Z")

</div>

Dollar store food items

1. 2.5 litre Faygo pop
2. Off-brand potato chips

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67923 "2019-09-15T03:41:06Z")

</div>

Dollar store food items

1. 2.5 litre Faygo pop
2. Off-brand potato chips
3. Wine in a plastic glass.

Yes, I saw this being sold in a dollar store in Houston.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67924 "2019-09-15T03:53:28Z")

</div>

Dollar store food items

1. 2.5 litre Faygo pop
2. Off-brand potato chips
3. Wine in a plastic glass
4. Hot Pockets

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67925 "2019-09-15T05:34:47Z")

</div>

Dollar store food items

1. 2.5 litre Faygo pop
2. Off-brand potato chips
3. Wine in a plastic glass
4. Hot Pockets
5. Off-brand jar of pickles

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67926 "2019-09-15T05:52:25Z")

</div>

Dollar store food items

1. 2.5 litre Faygo pop
2. Off-brand potato chips
3. Wine in a plastic glass
4. Hot Pockets
5. Off-brand jar of pickles
6. Junior Mints

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/67927 "2019-09-15T11:49:19Z")

</div>

Dollar store food items

1. 2.5 litre Faygo pop
2. Off-brand potato chips
3. Wine in a plastic glass
4. Hot Pockets
5. Off-brand jar of pickles
6. Junior Mints
7. Off-brand spices, way past expiration dates

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3395)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3397)
