# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Battle of Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War  
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> [@atimnie](#):
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> _Originally Posted by atimnie View Post  
> Bob Campbell does not fit the list.  
> How do you figure that?_
> 
> Are you talking about the dummy on Soap? If so, that’s rather an obscure reference, and could have been helped with a side note, as in my addition of Wayland Flowers’ Madame. Bob Campbell, from Soap, would have cleared things up.

I figured that people would be able to figure out I was talking about Bob Campbell the puppet because I was putting him in a list of puppets.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69471 "2019-12-10T16:00:11Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Battle of Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69472 "2019-12-10T16:09:58Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Battle of Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy 69535
4. Battle of Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69473 "2019-12-11T04:07:10Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Battle of Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Battle of Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Battle of Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan  
By some criteria, a contender for the title “largest naval battle in history”, with over 200,000 naval personnel involved.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69474 "2019-12-11T04:16:15Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69475 "2019-12-11T06:17:19Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution
7. Hampton Roads, 1862 - The Battle of the Monitor and the Merrimack, the first battle between two ironclad warships, commemorated today with the Monitor/Merrimack Bridge-Tunnel.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69476 "2019-12-11T07:23:15Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution
7. Hampton Roads, 1862 - The Battle of the Monitor and the Merrimack, the first battle between two ironclad warships, commemorated today with the Monitor/Merrimack Bridge-Tunnel.
8. Actium, 31 BC - Octavian’s fleet defeated Mark Antony and Cleopatra’s fleet. Octavian went on to found the Roman Empire.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69477 "2019-12-11T07:46:20Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution
7. Hampton Roads, 1862 - The Battle of the Monitor and the Merrimack, the first battle between two ironclad warships, commemorated today with the Monitor/Merrimack Bridge-Tunnel.
8. Actium, 31 BC - Octavian’s fleet defeated Mark Antony and Cleopatra’s fleet. Octavian went on to found the Roman Empire.
9. Midway, 1942 - A turning point in the Pacific theater in WW2, the US Navy defeats an attacking Japanese fleet, sinking four of their aircraft carriers.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69478 "2019-12-11T15:20:23Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution
7. Hampton Roads, 1862 - The Battle of the Monitor and the Merrimack, the first battle between two ironclad warships, commemorated today with the Monitor/Merrimack Bridge-Tunnel.
8. Actium, 31 BC - Octavian’s fleet defeated Mark Antony and Cleopatra’s fleet. Octavian went on to found the Roman Empire.
9. Midway, 1942 - A turning point in the Pacific theater in WW2, the US Navy defeats an attacking Japanese fleet, sinking four of their aircraft carriers.
10. River Plate, 1939 - first naval battle of WW2 and the start of the Battle of the Atlantic; 3 small Royal Navy cruisers defeat the battleship _Graf Spee_  
The town of Ajax in Ontario is named for 1 of the Royal Navy ships

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution
7. Hampton Roads, 1862 - The Battle of the Monitor and the Merrimack, the first battle between two ironclad warships, commemorated today with the Monitor/Merrimack Bridge-Tunnel.
8. Actium, 31 BC - Octavian’s fleet defeated Mark Antony and Cleopatra’s fleet. Octavian went on to found the Roman Empire.
9. Midway, 1942 - A turning point in the Pacific theater in WW2, the US Navy defeats an attacking Japanese fleet, sinking four of their aircraft carriers.
10. River Plate, 1939 - first naval battle of WW2 and the start of the Battle of the Atlantic; 3 small Royal Navy cruisers defeat the battleship Graf Spee
11. Pearl Harbor, 1941 - Japanese naval air attack fails to destroy the US Pacific Fleet but brings the US into World War II

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69480 "2019-12-11T17:31:35Z")

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution
7. Hampton Roads, 1862 - The Battle of the Monitor and the Merrimack, the first battle between two ironclad warships, commemorated today with the Monitor/Merrimack Bridge-Tunnel.
8. Actium, 31 BC - Octavian’s fleet defeated Mark Antony and Cleopatra’s fleet. Octavian went on to found the Roman Empire.
9. Midway, 1942 - A turning point in the Pacific theater in WW2, the US Navy defeats an attacking Japanese fleet, sinking four of their aircraft carriers.
10. River Plate, 1939 - first naval battle of WW2 and the start of the Battle of the Atlantic; 3 small Royal Navy cruisers defeat the battleship Graf Spee
11. Pearl Harbor, 1941 - Japanese naval air attack fails to destroy the US Pacific Fleet but brings the US into World War II
12. Yamen, 1279 - Southern Song China vs Mongol Yuan forces. Outnumbered Yuan fleet overcomes, opens path for total Mongol takeover of China

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Important naval battles, the year, and a brief description

1. Salamis, 480 BC - The Greeks turn back a Persian invasion
2. Tsushima Strait, 1905 - Japanese victory over the Russian fleet that sealed the Russo-Japanese War
3. Lepanto, 1571 - A coalition of European powers defeated an Ottoman navy
4. Trafalgar, 1805 - Britain confirmed its naval supremacy against Napoleon’s French and allied Spanish navies.
5. Leyte Gulf, 1944 - The largest naval battle of World War II; decisive Allied victory over Japan
6. Chesapeake, 1781 - French fleet kept British from relieving Lord Cornwallis; key to victory in American Revolution
7. Hampton Roads, 1862 - The Battle of the Monitor and the Merrimack, the first battle between two ironclad warships, commemorated today with the Monitor/Merrimack Bridge-Tunnel.
8. Actium, 31 BC - Octavian’s fleet defeated Mark Antony and Cleopatra’s fleet. Octavian went on to found the Roman Empire.
9. Midway, 1942 - A turning point in the Pacific theater in WW2, the US Navy defeats an attacking Japanese fleet, sinking four of their aircraft carriers.
10. River Plate, 1939 - first naval battle of WW2 and the start of the Battle of the Atlantic; 3 small Royal Navy cruisers defeat the battleship Graf Spee
11. Pearl Harbor, 1941 - Japanese naval air attack fails to destroy the US Pacific Fleet but brings the US into World War II
12. Yamen, 1279 - Southern Song China vs Mongol Yuan forces. Outnumbered Yuan fleet overcomes, opens path for total Mongol takeover of China
13. Gravelines, 1588 - English fleet defeats the Spanish Armada and prevents an invasion

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69482 "2019-12-11T18:24:34Z")

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Famous Bakers

1. Duff Goldman

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69483 "2019-12-11T18:32:24Z")

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Famous Bakers

1. Duff Goldman
2. Paul Hollywood

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69484 "2019-12-11T18:43:12Z")

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Famous Bakers

1. Duff Goldman
2. Paul Hollywood
3. James Dewar

The baker who invented the Twinkie

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69485 "2019-12-11T18:57:48Z")

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Famous Bakers

1. Duff Goldman
2. Paul Hollywood
3. James Dewar
4. James Baker

White House Chief of Staff and Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan; later Secretary of State under GHWB.

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Famous Bakers

1. Duff Goldman
2. Paul Hollywood
3. James Dewar
4. James Baker
5. Tom Baker  
Played the iconic 4th Doctor on Doctor Who.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/69487 "2019-12-11T19:54:36Z")

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Famous Bakers

1. Duff Goldman
2. Paul Hollywood
3. James Dewar
4. James Baker
5. Tom Baker
6. Debbi Fields

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Famous Bakers

1. Duff Goldman
2. Paul Hollywood
3. James Dewar
4. James Baker
5. Tom Baker
6. Debbi Fields
7. Buddy Valastro
8. Marie-Antoine Carême

He was known in Paris in the early 1800s for his _pièces montées_, “elaborate constructions used as centerpieces . . . displayed in the pâtisserie window. He made these confections, which were sometimes several feet high, entirely out of foodstuffs such as sugar, marzipan, and pastry. He modeled them on temples, pyramids, and ancient ruins”

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