# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3506
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70109 "2020-01-16T22:02:06Z")
You can’t tell by looking at the names (non-obvious family relationships). Rules: a) blood kin only b) last names must be different c) let’s keep it close; no “person X was the 4th cousin of somebody’s aunt’s brother” d) both people should pass the “reasonable person would know who they are” test 1. Anderson Cooper is the son of Gloria Vanderbilt 2. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty are siblings 3. Nicolas Cage, Sofia Coppola, and Jason Schwartzman are all first cousins 4. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. 5. Diane Ladd is Laura Dern’s mother 6. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are brothers. 1. Norah Jones is the daughter of Ravi Shankar. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70110 "2020-01-16T22:06:03Z")
You can’t tell by looking at the names (non-obvious family relationships). Rules: a) blood kin only b) last names must be different c) let’s keep it close; no “person X was the 4th cousin of somebody’s aunt’s brother” d) both people should pass the “reasonable person would know who they are” test 1. Anderson Cooper is the son of Gloria Vanderbilt 2. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty are siblings 3. Nicolas Cage, Sofia Coppola, and Jason Schwartzman are all first cousins 4. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. 5. Diane Ladd is Laura Dern’s mother 6. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are brothers. 1. Norah Jones is the daughter of Ravi Shankar. 1. Gwyneth Paltrow is the daughter of Blythe Danner. And they both are beautiful, IMHO. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70111 "2020-01-16T22:24:19Z")
You can’t tell by looking at the names (non-obvious family relationships). Rules: a) blood kin only b) last names must be different c) let’s keep it close; no “person X was the 4th cousin of somebody’s aunt’s brother” d) both people should pass the “reasonable person would know who they are” test 1. Anderson Cooper is the son of Gloria Vanderbilt 2. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty are siblings 3. Nicolas Cage, Sofia Coppola, and Jason Schwartzman are all first cousins 4. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. 5. Diane Ladd is Laura Dern’s mother 6. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are brothers. 7. Norah Jones is the daughter of Ravi Shankar. 8. Gwyneth Paltrow is the daughter of Blythe Danner. 9. Angelina Jolie is the daughter of Jon Voight ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70112 "2020-01-16T23:16:10Z")
You can’t tell by looking at the names (non-obvious family relationships). Rules: a) blood kin only b) last names must be different c) let’s keep it close; no “person X was the 4th cousin of somebody’s aunt’s brother” d) both people should pass the “reasonable person would know who they are” test 1. Anderson Cooper is the son of Gloria Vanderbilt 2. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty are siblings 3. Nicolas Cage, Sofia Coppola, and Jason Schwartzman are all first cousins 4. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. 5. Diane Ladd is Laura Dern’s mother 6. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are brothers. 7. Norah Jones is the daughter of Ravi Shankar. 8. Gwyneth Paltrow is the daughter of Blythe Danner. 9. Angelina Jolie is the daughter of Jon Voight 10. Elle King is the daughter of Rob Schneider. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70113 "2020-01-16T23:40:37Z")
You can’t tell by looking at the names (non-obvious family relationships). Rules: a) blood kin only b) last names must be different c) let’s keep it close; no “person X was the 4th cousin of somebody’s aunt’s brother” d) both people should pass the “reasonable person would know who they are” test 1. Anderson Cooper is the son of Gloria Vanderbilt 2. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty are siblings 3. Nicolas Cage, Sofia Coppola, and Jason Schwartzman are all first cousins 4. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. 5. Diane Ladd is Laura Dern’s mother 6. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are brothers. 7. Norah Jones is the daughter of Ravi Shankar. 8. Gwyneth Paltrow is the daughter of Blythe Danner. 9. Angelina Jolie is the daughter of Jon Voight 10. Elle King is the daughter of Rob Schneider. 11. Crystal Gayle and Loretta Lynn are sisters ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70114 "2020-01-16T23:42:04Z")
double post ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70115 "2020-01-17T01:06:06Z")
You can’t tell by looking at the names (non-obvious family relationships). Rules: a) blood kin only b) last names must be different c) let’s keep it close; no “person X was the 4th cousin of somebody’s aunt’s brother” d) both people should pass the “reasonable person would know who they are” test 1. Anderson Cooper is the son of Gloria Vanderbilt 2. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty are siblings 3. Nicolas Cage, Sofia Coppola, and Jason Schwartzman are all first cousins 4. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. 5. Diane Ladd is Laura Dern’s mother 6. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are brothers. 7. Norah Jones is the daughter of Ravi Shankar. 8. Gwyneth Paltrow is the daughter of Blythe Danner. 9. Angelina Jolie is the daughter of Jon Voight 10. Elle King is the daughter of Rob Schneider. 11. Crystal Gayle and Loretta Lynn are sisters 12. Albert Brooks and the late Bob Einstein (aka “Super Dave Osborn”) are brothers ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70116 "2020-01-17T04:06:53Z")
You can’t tell by looking at the names (non-obvious family relationships). Rules: a) blood kin only b) last names must be different c) let’s keep it close; no “person X was the 4th cousin of somebody’s aunt’s brother” d) both people should pass the “reasonable person would know who they are” test 1. Anderson Cooper is the son of Gloria Vanderbilt 2. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty are siblings 3. Nicolas Cage, Sofia Coppola, and Jason Schwartzman are all first cousins 4. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. 5. Diane Ladd is Laura Dern’s mother 6. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are brothers. 7. Norah Jones is the daughter of Ravi Shankar. 8. Gwyneth Paltrow is the daughter of Blythe Danner. 9. Angelina Jolie is the daughter of Jon Voight 10. Elle King is the daughter of Rob Schneider. 11. Crystal Gayle and Loretta Lynn are sisters 12. Albert Brooks and the late Bob Einstein (aka “Super Dave Osborn”) are brothers 13. Maya Rudoph is the daughter of Minnie Riperton Pass ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70117 "2020-01-17T05:00:15Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > 1. Melanie Griffith is the daughter of Tippi Hedren. And Dakota Johnson is the daughter of Melanie Griffith. > [@Bullitt](#): > > 1. Gwyneth Paltrow is the daughter of Blythe Danner. Another one is Gwyneth Paltrow and Katherine Moennig; they’re first cousins. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70118 "2020-01-17T05:43:57Z")
New category: Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70119 "2020-01-17T06:09:49Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70120 "2020-01-17T06:12:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Another one is Gwyneth Paltrow and Katherine Moennig; they’re first cousins. Cool. Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70121 "2020-01-17T06:13:59Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) 3. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70122 "2020-01-17T06:58:27Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) 3. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) 4. “You fill up my senses, come fill me again” (Annie’s Song) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70123 "2020-01-17T07:31:11Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) 3. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) 4. “You fill up my senses, come fill me again” (Annie’s Song) 5. “I fiddle when I can, work when I should” (Thank God I’m a Country Boy) ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70124 "2020-01-17T08:29:42Z")
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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70125 "2020-01-17T09:56:41Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) 3. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) 4. “You fill up my senses, come fill me again” (Annie’s Song) 5. “I fiddle when I can, work when I should” (Thank God I’m a Country Boy) 6. “ And we face every day like the first or the last one; With nothin’ to lose and heaven to gain” (Alaska And Me) ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70126 "2020-01-18T01:31:07Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) 3. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) 4. “You fill up my senses, come fill me again” (Annie’s Song) 5. “I fiddle when I can, work when I should” (Thank God I’m a Country Boy) 6. “ And we face every day like the first or the last one; With nothin’ to lose and heaven to gain” (Alaska And Me) 7. Life ain’t nothin’ but a funny funny riddle (Thank God I’m a country boy) ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70127 "2020-01-18T02:46:19Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) 3. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) 4. “You fill up my senses, come fill me again” (Annie’s Song) 5. “I fiddle when I can, work when I should” (Thank God I’m a Country Boy) 6. “ And we face every day like the first or the last one; With nothin’ to lose and heaven to gain” (Alaska And Me) 7. Life ain’t nothin’ but a funny funny riddle (Thank God I’m a country boy) 8. “And talk of poems and prayers and promises And things that we believe in, how sweet it is to love someone, How right it is to care” (Poems, Prayers, And Promises) ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/70128 "2020-01-18T06:06:42Z")
Great John Denver lyrics (and the song they’re from) 1. “You can talk to God and listen to the casual reply.” (Rocky Mountain High) 2. “ Boy you better go home where it’s warm. And you can live in the love of the common people, smiles from the heart of a family man.” (The Love Of Common People) 3. “If I should live forever and all my dreams come true, my memories of love will be of you” (Perhaps Love) 4. “You fill up my senses, come fill me again” (Annie’s Song) 5. “I fiddle when I can, work when I should” (Thank God I’m a Country Boy) 6. “ And we face every day like the first or the last one; With nothin’ to lose and heaven to gain” (Alaska And Me) 7. Life ain’t nothin’ but a funny funny riddle (Thank God I’m a country boy) 8. “And talk of poems and prayers and promises And things that we believe in, how sweet it is to love someone, How right it is to care” (Poems, Prayers, And Promises) 9. “ Take me to tomorrow, take me there today, I’ve had my fill of sorrow and living this way. Take me to tomorrow, that’s where I’d like to be, the day after tomorrow is waiting for me.” — Take Me To Tomorrow [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3505) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=3507)