# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 362
**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7222 "2011-09-01T19:25:58Z")
Famous non-actors who have had cameos in movies. 1. Kurt Vonnegut, Back to School 2. Alice Cooper, Wayne’s World 3. Larry Ellison (Oracle CEO), Iron Man 2 4. Al Sharpton (street preacher), Malcolm X 5. Stan Lee (himself) Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (among others) 6. Marshall McLuhan, Annie Hall 7. Phil Mickelson, Tin Cup 8. Bob Barker, Happy Gilmore 9. Lance Armstrong, Dodgeball 10. Harry Blackmun, Amistad 11. Howard Marks, Human Traffic ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7223 "2011-09-01T19:55:00Z")
Famous non-actors who have had cameos in movies. 1. Kurt Vonnegut, Back to School 2. Alice Cooper, Wayne’s World 3. Larry Ellison (Oracle CEO), Iron Man 2 4. Al Sharpton (street preacher), Malcolm X 5. Stan Lee (himself) Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (among others) 6. Marshall McLuhan, Annie Hall 7. Phil Mickelson, Tin Cup 8. Bob Barker, Happy Gilmore 9. Lance Armstrong, Dodgeball 10. Harry Blackmun, Amistad 11. Howard Marks, Human Traffic 12. Mike Tyson, The Hangover ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7224 "2011-09-01T22:17:13Z")
Famous non-actors who have had cameos in movies. 1. Kurt Vonnegut, Back to School 2. Alice Cooper, Wayne’s World 3. Larry Ellison (Oracle CEO), Iron Man 2 4. Al Sharpton (street preacher), Malcolm X 5. Stan Lee (himself) Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (among others) 6. Marshall McLuhan, Annie Hall 7. Phil Mickelson, Tin Cup 8. Bob Barker, Happy Gilmore 9. Lance Armstrong, Dodgeball 10. Harry Blackmun, Amistad 11. Howard Marks, Human Traffic 12. Mike Tyson, The Hangover 13. Alfred Hitchcock in a whole bunch of movies he directed I’ll pass on a new category. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7225 "2011-09-02T00:40:25Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7226 "2011-09-02T00:50:16Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) [/QUOTE] 2. [Major General James P. Wolfe](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wolfe), Battle of the Plains of Abraham ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7227 "2011-09-02T01:29:36Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. [Lord Admiral Horation Nelson](http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson#Battle_of_Trafalgar), Battle of Trafalgar I looked it up: he wasn’t killed instantly but he died on the same day 3 hours after being shot. Before losing consciousness Nelson actually told the surgeon who came to examine him to go help somebody else because his condition was hopeless: “My backbone is shot through.” ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7228 "2011-09-02T02:34:21Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. [Lord Admiral Horation Nelson](http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson#Battle_of_Trafalgar), Battle of Trafalgar I looked it up: he wasn’t killed instantly but he died on the same day 3 hours after being shot. Before losing consciousness Nelson actually told the surgeon who came to examine him to go help somebody else because his condition was hopeless: “My backbone is shot through.” 1. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7229 "2011-09-02T03:00:15Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. [Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson](http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson#Battle_of_Trafalgar), Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7230 "2011-09-02T03:10:39Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7231 "2011-09-02T04:25:03Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 7. Major General Sir Edward Pakenham, Battle of New Orleans, 1815 ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7232 "2011-09-02T12:06:18Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 7. Major General Sir Edward Pakenham, Battle of New Orleans, 1815 8. Mardonius, Persian CIC, Platea ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7233 "2011-09-02T13:17:55Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 7. Major General Sir Edward Pakenham, Battle of New Orleans, 1815 8. Mardonius, Persian CIC, Platea 9. Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, Pearl Harbor, 1941 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7234 "2011-09-02T14:02:22Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 7. Major General Sir Edward Pakenham, Battle of New Orleans, 1815 8. Mardonius, Persian CIC, Platea 9. Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, Pearl Harbor, 1941 10. Lt. Gen. Leonidas Polk, CSA, Pine Mountain, June 1864 Disembowelled by a Union artillery shell. Rear Adm. Kidd, I see, was the first U.S. Navy admiral ever killed in action. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7235 "2011-09-02T14:35:33Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 7. Major General Sir Edward Pakenham, Battle of New Orleans, 1815 8. Mardonius, Persian CIC, Platea 9. Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, Pearl Harbor, 1941 10. Lt. Gen. Leonidas Polk, CSA, Pine Mountain, June 1864 11. General Albert Sidney Johnston, Shiloh, 1862 Johnston’s death may have been a major turning point in history. He was widely regarded as one of the best generals in the war and if he hadn’t died so early the Confederates might have done better in the war. (Although there’s a counterargument that Johnston’s reputation was preserved by his early death. He hadn’t actually performed as well as had been predicted and might have ended up being a Confederate MacClellan - somebody who looked good on paper but failed in actual battle.) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7236 "2011-09-02T16:15:51Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 7. Major General Sir Edward Pakenham, Battle of New Orleans, 1815 8. Mardonius, Persian CIC, Platea 9. Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, Pearl Harbor, 1941 10. Lt. Gen. Leonidas Polk, CSA, Pine Mountain, June 1864 11. General Albert Sidney Johnston, Shiloh, 1862 12. [General Maurice Rose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Rose#World_War_II), Paderborn, March 1945 Highest ranking American Jewish officer in WW2 and the highest ranking American officer killed in Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7237 "2011-09-02T18:09:47Z")
Generals or Admirals killed in battle (mortally wounded and died later than the same day not included) and name of battle or campaign: 1. Simon Bolivar Bucker, Okinawa (Lt. General, highest ranking US soldier KIA in WW2) 2. Major General James P. Wolfe, Battle of the Plains of Abraham 3. Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar 4. John F. Reynolds, Gettysburg (Maj. General USA, shot in the head minutes after arriving on the battlefield on the First Day) 5. John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Court House (Major General USA, highest-ranking Union casualty in Civil War, last words reputed to be “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”) 6. Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon, Marquis de Saint-Veran, like Wolfe also killed at the Battle of Quebec, 1759 7. Major General Sir Edward Pakenham, Battle of New Orleans, 1815 8. Mardonius, Persian CIC, Platea 9. Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, Pearl Harbor, 1941 10. Lt. Gen. Leonidas Polk, CSA, Pine Mountain, June 1864 11. General Albert Sidney Johnston, Shiloh, 1862 12. General Maurice Rose, Paderborn, March 1945 13. Maj. Gen. James Birdseye McPherson, Atlanta, 1864 Sherman openly wept when he heard of McPherson’s death. Next category: Songs about cars or driving 1. “Drive,” The Cars ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7238 "2011-09-02T18:10:28Z")
Songs about cars or driving 1. “Drive,” The Cars 2. “Baby, You Can Drive My Car” The Beatles ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7239 "2011-09-02T18:46:52Z")
Songs about cars or driving 1. “Drive,” The Cars 2. “Baby, You Can Drive My Car” The Beatles 3. [“Drive (for Daddy Gene)”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQe3DKDQRRs;cf03800514=12A7FE14F!MjA0MDQ0MDQzOmNvcnByYWRpdXNzc286Fu8EEttiP0mGRPaX2mxauA==) by Alan Jackson ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7240 "2011-09-02T18:49:40Z")
Songs about cars or driving 1. “Drive,” The Cars 2. “Baby, You Can Drive My Car” The Beatles 3. “Drive (for Daddy Gene)” by Alan Jackson 4. “Pink Cadillac,” Aretha Franklin ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7241 "2011-09-02T19:28:48Z")
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