# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7302 "2011-09-06T22:04:27Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7303 "2011-09-06T22:11:29Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7304 "2011-09-06T22:20:45Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884

Trivia: As commander of the Army of the Tennessee Logan was a hero of the Battle of Atlanta and commissioned an enormous cyclorama of the battle for his campaign. After an odyssey that included time in a broke circus and rotting in a barn the cyclorama was restored, made (low tech) 3-D with wagon wheels/branches/etc., given revolving audience seating and is now [an attraction](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Cyclorama) on the grounds of the Atlanta Zoo.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7305 "2011-09-07T02:33:00Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964

Miller’s daughter Stephanie is a comic who briefly hosted a TV talk show and now headlines a radio talk program. She’s decidedly more liberal than her father was.

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7306 "2011-09-07T02:46:16Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964 Miller’s daughter Stephanie is a comic who briefly hosted a TV talk show and now headlines a radio talk program. She’s decidedly more liberal than her father was.
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7307 "2011-09-07T02:50:45Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964 Miller’s daughter Stephanie is a comic who briefly hosted a TV talk show and now headlines a radio talk program. She’s decidedly more liberal than her father was.
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920
7. Geraldine Ferraro, Democrat, 1984

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7308 "2011-09-07T04:03:52Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964 Miller’s daughter Stephanie is a comic who briefly hosted a TV talk show and now headlines a radio talk program. She’s decidedly more liberal than her father was.
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920
7. Geraldine Ferraro, Democrat, 1984
8. Arthur Sewall, Democrat, 1896 and Thomas Watson, Populist, 1896

I include them as a dual entry because they were running with the same Presidential candidate. William Jennings Bryan was the Presidential nominee for both the Democratic and the Populist parties in 1896. But the two parties nominated different Vice Presidential candidates.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7309 "2011-09-07T04:12:01Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964 Miller’s daughter Stephanie is a comic who briefly hosted a TV talk show and now headlines a radio talk program. She’s decidedly more liberal than her father was.
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920
7. Geraldine Ferraro, Democrat, 1984
8. Arthur Sewall, Democrat, 1896 and Thomas Watson, Populist, 1896
9. Winona LaDuke, Green, 1996 and 2000

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7310 "2011-09-07T04:15:15Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964 Miller’s daughter Stephanie is a comic who briefly hosted a TV talk show and now headlines a radio talk program. She’s decidedly more liberal than her father was.
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920
7. Geraldine Ferraro, Democrat, 1984
8. Arthur Sewall, Democrat, 1896 and Thomas Watson, Populist, 1896
9. Winona LaDuke, Green, 1996 and 2000
10. Jack Kemp, Republican, 1996

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7311 "2011-09-07T06:43:50Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964 Miller’s daughter Stephanie is a comic who briefly hosted a TV talk show and now headlines a radio talk program. She’s decidedly more liberal than her father was.
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920
7. Geraldine Ferraro, Democrat, 1984
8. Arthur Sewall, Democrat, 1896 and Thomas Watson, Populist, 1896
9. Winona LaDuke, Green, 1996 and 2000
10. Jack Kemp, Republican, 1996
11. Curtis LeMay, American Independent, 1968

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7312 "2011-09-07T19:35:27Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920
7. Geraldine Ferraro, Democrat, 1984
8. Arthur Sewall, Democrat, 1896 and Thomas Watson, Populist, 1896
9. Winona LaDuke, Green, 1996 and 2000
10. Jack Kemp, Republican, 1996
11. Curtis LeMay, American Independent, 1968
12. George H. Pendleton, Democrat, 1864

The only national election ever held, I believe, in the middle of a civil war.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7313 "2011-09-07T23:11:08Z")

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U.S. Vice Presidential candidates who lost, their party, and the year

1. Henry Cabot Lodge, Republican, 1960
2. Pat Choate, Reform, 1996
3. Sarah Louise Palin, Republican, 2008
4. John A. Logan, Republican, 1884
5. William Miller, Republican, 1964
6. FDR, Democrat, 1920
7. Geraldine Ferraro, Democrat, 1984
8. Arthur Sewall, Democrat, 1896 and Thomas Watson, Populist, 1896
9. Winona LaDuke, Green, 1996 and 2000
10. Jack Kemp, Republican, 1996
11. Curtis LeMay, American Independent, 1968
12. George H. Pendleton, Democrat, 1864
13. Earl Warren, Republican, 1948

Next up- Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7314 "2011-09-08T00:08:58Z")

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Next up- Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7315 "2011-09-08T00:44:42Z")

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Next up- Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”
3. “Look before you leap”/“He who hesitates is lost”

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7316 "2011-09-08T01:22:22Z")

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Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”
3. “Look before you leap”/“He who hesitates is lost”
4. “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar”/“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7317 "2011-09-08T01:46:12Z")

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Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”
3. “Look before you leap”/“He who hesitates is lost”
4. “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar”/“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”
5. “Great minds think alike.”/“Fools seldom differ.”

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7318 "2011-09-08T02:08:09Z")

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Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”
3. “Look before you leap”/“He who hesitates is lost”
4. “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar”/“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”
5. “Great minds think alike.”/“Fools seldom differ.”
6. “The early bird gets the worm.” / “Good things come to those who wait.”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7319 "2011-09-08T02:40:58Z")

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Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”
3. “Look before you leap”/“He who hesitates is lost”
4. “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar”/“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”
5. “Great minds think alike.”/“Fools seldom differ.”
6. “The early bird gets the worm.” / “Good things come to those who wait.”
7. “Waste not want not”/“You can’t take it with you”

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7320 "2011-09-08T02:50:31Z")

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Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”
3. “Look before you leap”/“He who hesitates is lost”
4. “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar”/“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”
5. “Great minds think alike.”/“Fools seldom differ.”
6. “The early bird gets the worm.” / “Good things come to those who wait.”
7. “Waste not want not”/“You can’t take it with you”
8. “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.”/ “They also serve who only stand and wait.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/7321 "2011-09-08T03:02:36Z")

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Contradicting Bromides

1. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”/“Out of sight, out of mind”
2. “The more, the merrier.”/“Too many cooks spoil the broth.”
3. “Look before you leap”/“He who hesitates is lost”
4. “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar”/“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”
5. “Great minds think alike.”/“Fools seldom differ.”
6. “The early bird gets the worm.” / “Good things come to those who wait.”
7. “Waste not want not”/“You can’t take it with you”
8. “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.”/ “They also serve who only stand and wait.”
9. “Neither a borrower nor a lender be.”/“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

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