# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 401

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8002 "2011-10-12T14:18:21Z")

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Non electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8003 "2011-10-12T14:26:03Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8004 "2011-10-12T14:38:01Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. chainsaw

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8005 "2011-10-12T14:59:15Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. chainsaw
7. Door lock

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8006 "2011-10-12T15:23:17Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. Door lock
7. Push Mower

removed chainsaw since there are electric chainsaws and even a gas chainsaw generates electricity to supply the spark for ignition.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8007 "2011-10-12T16:03:18Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. Door lock
7. Push Mower
8. Hand-cranked eggbeater

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8008 "2011-10-12T17:57:48Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. Door lock
7. Push Mower
8. Hand-cranked eggbeater
9. [Acoustic guitar](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B004J67JLY/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=1055398&s=home-garden)

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8009 "2011-10-12T18:18:04Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. Door lock
7. Push Mower
8. Hand-cranked eggbeater
9. [Acoustic guitar](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B004J67JLY/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=1055398&s=home-garden)
10. [Difference engine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_engine)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8010 "2011-10-12T19:53:05Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. Door lock
7. Push Mower
8. Hand-cranked eggbeater
9. Acoustic guitar
10. Difference engine
11. [Water clock](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_clock)

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8011 "2011-10-12T20:06:10Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. Door lock
7. Push Mower
8. Hand-cranked eggbeater
9. Acoustic guitar
10. Difference engine
11. Water clock
12. [Hand Drill](http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?c=&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8012 "2011-10-13T07:20:34Z")

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Non-electric machines

1. Old fashioned crank ice cream maker
2. hand cranked meat grinder
3. screw
4. Lever
5. Dumbwaiter
6. Door lock
7. Push Mower
8. Hand-cranked eggbeater
9. Acoustic guitar
10. Difference engine
11. Water clock
12. Hand drill
13. Grist mill

Next up: Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8013 "2011-10-13T13:36:56Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.

Wiki even has an article!: [No such thing as a free lunch - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain%27t_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch)

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8014 "2011-10-13T13:39:24Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8015 "2011-10-13T15:53:21Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8016 "2011-10-13T17:13:32Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8017 "2011-10-13T17:17:58Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8018 "2011-10-13T17:31:55Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
7. Thou art God.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8019 "2011-10-13T17:32:30Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
7. Thou art God.
8. Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8020 "2011-10-13T17:37:33Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
7. Thou art God.
8. Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense.
9. Most women are damn fools and children. But they’ve got more range than we’ve got. The brave ones are braver, the good ones are better — and the vile ones are viler, for that matter.

From _The Puppet Masters_.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8021 "2011-10-13T17:47:03Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
7. Thou art God.
8. Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense.
9. Most women are damn fools and children. But they’ve got more range than we’ve got. The brave ones are braver, the good ones are better — and the vile ones are viler, for that matter.
10. I’ve never understood how God could expect His creatures to pick the one true religion by faith - it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.

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