# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8022 "2011-10-13T17:50:42Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
7. Thou art God.
8. Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense.
9. Most women are damn fools and children. But they’ve got more range than we’ve got. The brave ones are braver, the good ones are better — and the vile ones are viler, for that matter.
10. I’ve never understood how God could expect His creatures to pick the one true religion by faith - it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.
11. I believe that almost all politicians are honest. For every bribed alderman there are hundreds of politicians, low paid or not paid at all, doing their level best without thanks or glory to make our system work. If this were not true, we would never have gotten past the thirteen colonies.

From _This I Believe_, 1952.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8023 "2011-10-13T18:25:02Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
7. Thou art God.
8. Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense.
9. Most women are damn fools and children. But they’ve got more range than we’ve got. The brave ones are braver, the good ones are better — and the vile ones are viler, for that matter.
10. I’ve never understood how God could expect His creatures to pick the one true religion by faith - it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.
11. I believe that almost all politicians are honest. For every bribed alderman there are hundreds of politicians, low paid or not paid at all, doing their level best without thanks or glory to make our system work. If this were not true, we would never have gotten past the thirteen colonies.
12. You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8024 "2011-10-13T18:35:42Z")

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Robert Heinlein quotes

1. Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
2. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
3. May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
4. Progress isn’t made by early risers. It’s made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
5. Dahlquist! Martin! Rivera! Wheeler!
6. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
7. Thou art God.
8. Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense.
9. Most women are damn fools and children. But they’ve got more range than we’ve got. The brave ones are braver, the good ones are better — and the vile ones are viler, for that matter.
10. I’ve never understood how God could expect His creatures to pick the one true religion by faith - it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.
11. I believe that almost all politicians are honest. For every bribed alderman there are hundreds of politicians, low paid or not paid at all, doing their level best without thanks or glory to make our system work. If this were not true, we would never have gotten past the thirteen colonies.
12. You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity.
13. You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don’t ever count on having both at once.

Would you like to know more?: [Robert A. Heinlein - Wikiquote](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein#Quotes)

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8025 "2011-10-13T18:40:52Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8026 "2011-10-13T19:04:17Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8027 "2011-10-13T19:58:06Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”

Based on Oscar Wilde.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8028 "2011-10-13T20:02:01Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”

I’m at old hand at playing the Alto Lead in G&S: Ruth, Buttercup, Lady Jane, Kateshaw; I rock that s\*\*t!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8029 "2011-10-13T21:15:26Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8030 "2011-10-13T21:53:32Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.
7. Princess Ida, “Princess Ida”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8031 "2011-10-13T22:54:17Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.
7. Princess Ida, “Princess Ida”
8. The (Modern) Major General, “Pirates of Penzance”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8032 "2011-10-14T00:35:07Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.
7. Princess Ida, “Princess Ida”
8. The (Modern) Major General, “Pirates of Penzance”
9. Peep-Bo, “The Mikado”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8033 "2011-10-14T18:35:14Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.
7. Princess Ida, “Princess Ida”
8. The (Modern) Major General, “Pirates of Penzance”
9. Peep-Bo, “The Mikado”
10. John Wellington Wells, “The Sorceror”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8034 "2011-10-14T19:34:10Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.
7. Princess Ida, “Princess Ida”
8. The (Modern) Major General, “Pirates of Penzance”
9. Peep-Bo, “The Mikado”
10. John Wellington Wells, “The Sorceror”
11. Sir Mervyn Murgatroyd, “Ruddigore”

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8035 "2011-10-14T19:45:32Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.
7. Princess Ida, “Princess Ida”
8. The (Modern) Major General, “Pirates of Penzance”
9. Peep-Bo, “The Mikado”
10. John Wellington Wells, “The Sorceror”
11. Sir Mervyn Murgatroyd, “Ruddigore”
12. The Duke of Plaza-Toro, “The Gondoliers”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8036 "2011-10-14T20:10:02Z")

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Gilbert & Sullivan characters

1. Ralph Rackstraw, “HMS Pinafore”
2. The Pirate King,“The Pirates of Penzance”
3. Poo-Bah, Lord High Everything Else, “The Mikado”
4. Bunthorne, “Patience”
5. Ruth, a Piratical Maid of All Work, “The Pirates Of Penzance”
6. The Lord Chancellor, “Iolanthe”, who sings the most difficult patter song ever written.
7. Princess Ida, “Princess Ida”
8. The (Modern) Major General, “Pirates of Penzance”
9. Peep-Bo, “The Mikado”
10. John Wellington Wells, “The Sorceror”
11. Sir Mervyn Murgatroyd, “Ruddigore”
12. The Duke of Plaza-Toro, “The Gondoliers”
13. Phoebe Meryll, “The Yeomen of the Guard”

New category: Western television series

1. Gunsmoke

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8037 "2011-10-14T20:13:39Z")

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New category: Western television series

1. Gunsmoke
2. Bonanza

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8038 "2011-10-14T20:43:11Z")

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New category: Western television series

1. Gunsmoke
2. Bonanza
3. Wild Wild West

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8039 "2011-10-14T20:45:14Z")

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Western television series

1. Gunsmoke
2. Bonanza
3. Wild Wild West
4. Rawhide

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8040 "2011-10-14T20:52:47Z")

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Western television series

1. Gunsmoke
2. Bonanza
3. Wild Wild West
4. Rawhide
5. The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8041 "2011-10-14T20:54:46Z")

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Western television series

1. Gunsmoke
2. Bonanza
3. Wild Wild West
4. Rawhide
5. The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr.
6. Maverick

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