# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 415

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8282 "2011-10-27T11:31:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Toys that were fads when you were a kid
> 
> 1. [Slime](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slime_(toy))
> 2. [Creepy Crawlers](http://www.samstoybox.com/toypics/CreepyCrawlersBox2.jpg)
> 3. [The Lemon Twist](http://media.photobucket.com/image/lemon%20twists%20jump%20rope/kjv31/7782/LemonTwist.jpg)
> 4. [Chinese jump rope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_jump_rope)
> 5. [Micronauts](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronauts)
> 6. [Super Balls](http://www.superballs.com/1965_wham-o_superball_pictures.htm)
> 7. [First Star Wars Action Figures](http://actionfiguresbuff-jon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/star-wars-kenner-first-action-figures-line.jpg)
> 8. [Rock em Sock Em Robots](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_'Em_Sock_'Em_Robots)
> 9. [Lite-Brite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite_Brite)
> 10. [Hot Wheels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Wheels)
> 11. [Star Bird](http://www.odinartcollectables.com/images/electronicStar_Bird.jpg)
> 12. [Pulsar](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm0j4KE1Mmw)
> 13. [Clackers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackers)

Wow! We must have all grown up with the same toys!  
I didn’t have Star Bird or Pulsar but other kids did.  
I have a whole box of Micronauts stored in my basement that I’m gonna give my boys when they’re older.  
Sadly, my Dad repoed my Star Wars figures and has them locked up somewhere!?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8283 "2011-10-27T13:19:05Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8284 "2011-10-27T13:23:20Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8285 "2011-10-27T14:35:22Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween ([Opening](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Knights_Game,_Halloween_Gambit))  
Is Castling a nickname?

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8286 "2011-10-27T15:15:39Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween ([Opening](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Knights_Game,_Halloween_Gambit))
5. The Sicilian Defense

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8287 "2011-10-27T15:53:47Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8288 "2011-10-27T20:18:38Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate
7. Nimzo-Indian Defence

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8289 "2011-10-27T22:49:09Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate
7. Nimzo-Indian Defence
8. Queen’s Gambit

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8290 "2011-10-27T22:53:21Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate
7. Nimzo-Indian Defence
8. Queen’s Gambit
9. Hippopotamus Defence

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8291 "2011-10-28T12:52:37Z")

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New category: Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate
7. Nimzo-Indian Defence
8. Queen’s Gambit
9. Hippopotamus Defence
10. The Berlin Wall (Berlin Defense)

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8292 "2011-10-28T13:04:20Z")

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Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate
7. Nimzo-Indian Defence
8. Queen’s Gambit
9. Hippopotamus Defence
10. The Berlin Wall (Berlin Defense)
11. Rat Defense

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8293 "2011-10-28T17:24:34Z")

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Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate
7. Nimzo-Indian Defence
8. Queen’s Gambit
9. Hippopotamus Defence
10. The Berlin Wall (Berlin Defense)
11. Rat Defense
12. Alekhine’s gun

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8294 "2011-10-28T20:21:48Z")

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Chess moves that have nicknames

1. Spanish Opening
2. Anti-Sicilian
3. Castling
4. Halloween (Opening)
5. The Sicilian Defense
6. Fool’s Mate
7. Nimzo-Indian Defence
8. Queen’s Gambit
9. Hippopotamus Defence
10. The Berlin Wall (Berlin Defense)
11. Rat Defense
12. Alekhine’s gun
13. Philidor Defence

New category: People other than the regular cast members who appeared on _Gilligan’s Island_

1. Phil Silvers (as producer Harold Hecuba)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8295 "2011-10-28T20:32:50Z")

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New category: People other than the regular cast members who appeared on _Gilligan’s Island_

1. Phil Silvers (as producer Harold Hecuba)
2. Hans Conried (as Wrongway Feldman)

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8296 "2011-10-28T20:37:37Z")

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People other than the regular cast members who appeared on Gilligan’s Island

1. Phil Silvers (as producer Harold Hecuba)
2. Hans Conried (as Wrongway Feldman)
3. Larry Storch (as gangster Jackson Farrell)

It suddenly occurs to me we’ve never seen Larry Storch and Mickey Dolenz in the same place at the same time . . . coincidence?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8297 "2011-10-28T21:57:21Z")

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People other than the regular cast members who appeared on Gilligan’s Island

1. Phil Silvers (as producer Harold Hecuba)
2. Hans Conried (as Wrongway Feldman)
3. Larry Storch (as gangster Jackson Farrell)
4. Kurt Russell (as Jungle Boy)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8298 "2011-10-29T05:52:21Z")

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People other than the regular cast members who appeared on Gilligan’s Island

1. Phil Silvers (as producer Harold Hecuba)
2. Hans Conried (as Wrongway Feldman)
3. Larry Storch (as gangster Jackson Farrell)
4. Kurt Russell (as Jungle Boy)
5. Henny Backus (Jim Backus’s wife - played a native in one episode)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8299 "2011-10-29T07:18:36Z")

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People other than the regular cast members who appeared on Gilligan’s Island

1. Phil Silvers (as producer Harold Hecuba)
2. Hans Conried (as Wrongway Feldman)
3. Larry Storch (as gangster Jackson Farrell)
4. Kurt Russell (as Jungle Boy)
5. Henny Backus (Jim Backus’s wife - played a native in one episode)
6. Vito Scotti (Japanese soldier & mad scientist)  
Scotti appeared in pretty much every sitcom of the 60s/70s/80s and played Nazorine the baker in _The Godfather_. I’ve wondered why Coppola, who was fanatical about continuity, didn’t hire him to reprise the role for _Godfather 3_. Scotti was still working at the time, and Coppola did hire the actor who played Nazorine’s son-in-law Enzo for GF3 and and though he was a successful character actor I doubt his fee would have dented the budget.

Sorry, hijack. The point is Vito Scotti was another actor who put the Asian in Caucasian in the '60s.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8300 "2011-10-29T07:38:39Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Scotti appeared in pretty much every sitcom of the 60s/70s/80s and played Nazorine the baker in _The Godfather_. I’ve wondered why Coppola, who was fanatical about continuity, didn’t hire him to reprise the role for _Godfather 3_. Scotti was still working at the time, and Coppola did hire the actor who played Nazorine’s son-in-law Enzo for GF3 and and though he was a successful character actor I doubt his fee would have dented the budget.

Could have been the same thing as Brando and Castellano. Some actors in the first movie saw the box office and decided they wanted outrageous sums to appear in the second (although I don’t know if this was the case with Scotti).

In my opinion, it was a little ungrateful. Coppola was willing to pay his actors a reasonably high salary and the movie had been an ensemble piece with no one star. And Brando should have been grateful for a role that revived his career and Castellano for a role that essentially was his career.

Trivia note: Right after making _The Godfather_ in which he played Pete Clemenza, Richard Castellano was cast as the lead in a short-lived TV series _The Super_. In the series his son was played by Bruno Kirby. A year later when they were casting for _The Godfather Part II_ Kirby got the part of Pete Clemenza as a young man.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8301 "2011-10-29T19:58:22Z")

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People other than the regular cast members who appeared on Gilligan’s Island

1. Phil Silvers (as producer Harold Hecuba)
2. Hans Conried (as Wrongway Feldman)
3. Larry Storch (as gangster Jackson Farrell)
4. Kurt Russell (as Jungle Boy)
5. Henny Backus (Jim Backus’s wife - played a native in one episode)
6. Vito Scotti (Japanese soldier & mad scientist)
7. Zsa Zsa Gabor (as Erika Tiffany Smith)

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