# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 433
**Author:** ![YoDoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e68b1a/32.png) [@YoDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YoDoc)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8642 "2011-11-19T23:36:41Z")
For Thanksgiving: foods that would/could have been present at the 1621 feast we commemorate on Thanksgiving: 1. Deer 2. Trout 3. Turkey 4. Squash 5. Maize (“you call it…corn.”) 6. Oysters 7. Pork ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8643 "2011-11-20T00:53:13Z")
For Thanksgiving: foods that would/could have been present at the 1621 feast we commemorate on Thanksgiving: 1. Deer 2. Trout 3. Turkey 4. Squash 5. Maize (“you call it…corn.”) 6. Oysters 7. Pork 8. Lobsters Which was not considered a high-class food back then. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8644 "2011-11-20T00:54:24Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > New category: Second Unit Directors on Hayao Miyazaki movies I honestly didn’t think it was an obscure category. Much less so than some of the others we’ve had. But to each his own. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8645 "2011-11-20T01:44:27Z")
For Thanksgiving: foods that would/could have been present at the 1621 feast we commemorate on Thanksgiving: 1. Deer 2. Trout 3. Turkey 4. Squash 5. Maize (“you call it…corn.”) 6. Oysters 7. Pork 8. Lobsters 9. Cod ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8646 "2011-11-20T02:20:46Z")
For Thanksgiving: foods that would/could have been present at the 1621 feast we commemorate on Thanksgiving: 1. Deer 2. Trout 3. Turkey 4. Squash 5. Maize (“you call it…corn.”) 6. Oysters 7. Pork 8. Lobsters 9. Cod 10. Clams ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8647 "2011-11-20T03:18:16Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] 1. Lobsters Which was not considered a high-class food back then. [/QUOTE] Far from. It was considered food for the poor, slaves, and indentured servants (who were essentially slaves until their indenture term expired). There were some indentured servants who had it in their contracts they would not be fed lobster any more often than their masters were. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8648 "2011-11-20T03:20:38Z")
For Thanksgiving: foods that would/could have been present at the 1621 feast we commemorate on Thanksgiving: 1. Deer 2. Trout 3. Turkey 4. Squash 5. Maize (“you call it…corn.”) 6. Oysters 7. Pork 8. Lobsters 9. Cod 10. Clams 11. Seal [Cite](http://www.history.com/topics/thanksgiving) And a [previous thread I started](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=492280)asking how it tastes that got a surprising number of informed responses. The answer in four words seems to be “like oily fishy beef”. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8649 "2011-11-20T03:24:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I honestly didn’t think it was an obscure category. Much less so than some of the others we’ve had. But to each his own. Eh, I feel your pain. I started one way back on _Game of Thrones_ characters, it took days and days to populate. What could be less obscure you’d think than a high rated HBO series and bestselling book series whose threads in Cafe Society got hundreds of responses? But, as Old Lodge Skins [observed](http://youtu.be/QwgnDn8ez9g?t=5m5s), “Sometimes the magic works, sometimes it doesn’t”. ---
**Author:** ![YoDoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e68b1a/32.png) [@YoDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YoDoc)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8650 "2011-11-20T04:05:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Far from. It was considered food for the poor, slaves, and indentured servants (who were essentially slaves until their indenture term expired). There were some indentured servants who had it in their contracts they would not be fed lobster any more often than their masters were. Well, it is basically “ocean cockroach”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8651 "2011-11-20T05:49:33Z")
For Thanksgiving: foods that would/could have been present at the 1621 feast we commemorate on Thanksgiving: 1. Deer 2. Trout 3. Turkey 4. Squash 5. Maize (“you call it…corn.”) 6. Oysters 7. Pork 8. Lobsters 9. Cod 10. Clams 11. Seal 12. Eels ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8652 "2011-11-20T17:16:55Z")
For Thanksgiving: foods that would/could have been present at the 1621 feast we commemorate on Thanksgiving: 1. Deer 2. Trout 3. Turkey 4. Squash 5. Maize (“you call it…corn.”) 6. Oysters 7. Pork 8. Lobsters 9. Cod 10. Clams 11. Seal 12. Eels 13. Berries Next: Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8653 "2011-11-20T17:28:09Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatice) WTF is pompatice anyway? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8654 "2011-11-20T18:28:55Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > WTF is pompatice anyway? [The Straight Dope on “pompatus”.](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/972/in-steve-millers-the-joker-what-is-the-pompatus-of-love) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8655 "2011-11-20T18:29:01Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatice) WTF is pompatice anyway? It’s [“pompatus”](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/972/in-steve-millers-the-joker-what-is-the-pompatus-of-love), sweetie 3. The Eagles “Hotel California” [(colitas)](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1053/in-the-song-hotel-california-what-does-colitas-mean) ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8656 "2011-11-20T19:19:32Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatus) 3. The Eagles “Hotel California” (colitas) 4. Kesha, “Grow a Pear” (phonics, as in “I’m just not hooked on your phonics”) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8657 "2011-11-20T19:32:01Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatus) 3. The Eagles “Hotel California” (colitas) 4. Kesha, “Grow a Pear” (phonics, as in “I’m just not hooked on your phonics”) 5. Live, “Lightning Crashes” (placenta) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8658 "2011-11-20T19:40:17Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatus) 3. The Eagles “Hotel California” (colitas) 4. Kesha, “Grow a Pear” (phonics, as in “I’m just not hooked on your phonics”) 5. Live, “Lightning Crashes” (placenta) 6. Blink 182, “What’s My Age Again?” (sodomy) ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8659 "2011-11-20T23:24:24Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatus) 3. The Eagles “Hotel California” (colitas) 4. Kesha, “Grow a Pear” (phonics, as in “I’m just not hooked on your phonics”) 5. Live, “Lightning Crashes” (placenta) 6. Blink 182, “What’s My Age Again?” (sodomy) 7. Motorhead, “Motorhead” (parallelogram) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8660 "2011-11-20T23:52:30Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatus) 3. The Eagles “Hotel California” (colitas) 4. Kesha, “Grow a Pear” (phonics, as in “I’m just not hooked on your phonics”) 5. Live, “Lightning Crashes” (placenta) 6. Blink 182, “What’s My Age Again?” (sodomy) 7. Motorhead, “Motorhead” (parallelogram) 8. Don Henley, “Drivin’ With Your Eyes Closed” (Rimbaud) Nice puns: _Some guys were born to Rimbaud_ / (ramble) \*Some guys breathe Baudelaire \*(bottled air) ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8661 "2011-11-21T02:50:12Z")
Popular songs that contain one or more words you wouldn’t expect to find in a popular song (with word) 1. Janis Ian, “At Seventeen” (debentures) 2. Steve Miller Band, “The Joker” (pompatus) 3. The Eagles “Hotel California” (colitas) 4. Kesha, “Grow a Pear” (phonics, as in “I’m just not hooked on your phonics”) 5. Live, “Lightning Crashes” (placenta) 6. Blink 182, “What’s My Age Again?” (sodomy) 7. Motorhead, “Motorhead” (parallelogram) 8. Don Henley, “Drivin’ With Your Eyes Closed” (Rimbaud) 9. Gordon Lightfoot, “Canadian Railroad Trilogy” (muskeg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=432) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=434)