# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 449
**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8962 "2011-12-05T18:48:47Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8963 "2011-12-05T19:04:24Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8964 "2011-12-05T19:16:06Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8965 "2011-12-05T19:59:05Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8966 "2011-12-05T20:50:03Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass 7. Lock/alarm remote ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8967 "2011-12-05T21:25:59Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass 7. Lock/alarm remote 8. Bottle opener ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8968 "2011-12-05T22:06:54Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass 7. Lock/alarm remote 8. Bottle opener 9. Climber’s D Hook ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8969 "2011-12-05T22:41:46Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass 7. Lock/alarm remote 8. Bottle opener 9. Climber’s D Hook 10. New York subway token Actually on my dad’s keychain – a souvenir from a 1965 trip from Ohio to Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8970 "2011-12-05T23:16:46Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass 7. Bottle opener 8. Climber’s D Hook 9. New York subway token 10. Digital tire pressure sensor removed Lock/alarm remote because that’s what a keyfob is. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8971 "2011-12-05T23:43:05Z")
Things (other than keys) on your keychain 1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass 7. Bottle opener 8. Climber’s D Hook 9. New York subway token 10. Digital tire pressure sensor 11. Rabbit’s foot Though not as common today as when I was a kid due to the powerful Anti-Cruelty to Rabbits lobby. As good a time as any to mention that it’s a bad idea to carry too much stuff on your key ring as it can damage the car’s ignition switch. ([Snopes](http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/heavykeys.asp)) ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8972 "2011-12-05T23:44:02Z")
1. Pictures 2. Keyfob 3. Flashlight 4. Jump drive 5. fingernail clippers 6. Exxon Speedy Pass 7. Lock/alarm remote 8. Bottle opener 9. Climber’s D Hook 10. New York subway token 11. Digital tire pressure sensor 12. Rabbit’s foot 13. Pocket knife Put Lock/alarm remote back in since it’s different from a [key fob](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keychain). ETA: Include Rabbit’s foot from above, which puts us at 13. Someone else can start a new one. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8973 "2011-12-06T03:37:17Z")
> [@kenetic](#): > > Put Lock/alarm remote back in since it’s different from a [key fob](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keychain). > > ETA: Include Rabbit’s foot from above, which puts us at 13. Someone else can start a new one. Sorry but they are one in the same. Funny from your own cite’s definition of a remote keyless system… > [@](#): > > The functions of a remote keyless entry system are contained on a [key fob](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_fob) or built into the [ignition](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_system) key handle itself. Buttons are dedicated to locking or unlocking the doors and opening the trunk (or, on [sport utility vehicles](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_utility_vehicle) and [station wagons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Station_wagon), unlock/open the rear tailgate). On some minivans, the power sliding doors can be opened/closed remotely. Some cars will also close any open [windows](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_window) and roof when remotely locking the car. Some remote keyless fobs also feature a red [panic button](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_button) which activates the [car alarm](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_alarm) as a standard feature. which defintion are you reading? Anyways, someone else can substitute an answer and start a new topic. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8974 "2011-12-06T03:48:38Z")
ETA I see the differentiation now but a car’s keyless entry/ignition system is still a FOB even though a FOB can serve other purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8975 "2011-12-06T03:52:41Z")
OK, I’ll go. Movie roles of Steve Martin 1. Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr, “The Man with Two Brains” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8976 "2011-12-06T03:54:58Z")
OK, I’ll go. Movie roles of Steve Martin 1. Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr, “The Man with Two Brains” 2. Navin R. Johnson, _The Jerk_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8977 "2011-12-06T04:12:38Z")
Movie roles of Steve Martin 1. Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr, “The Man with Two Brains” 2. Navin R. Johnson, _The Jerk_ 3. Harry Telemacher, _L.A. Story_ ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8978 "2011-12-06T05:17:49Z")
Movie roles of Steve Martin 1. Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr, “The Man with Two Brains” 2. Navin R. Johnson, _The Jerk_ 3. Harry Telemacher, _L.A. Story_ 4. Insolent Waiter , _The Muppet Movie_ ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8979 "2011-12-06T06:43:17Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > Sorry but they are one in the same. Funny from your own cite’s definition of a remote keyless system… Did you read it at all? > [@](#): > > A key fob is a generally decorative and at times useful item many people often carry with their keys, on a ring or a chain, for ease of tactile identification, to provide a better grip, or to make a personal statement By their definition EVERYTHING on the list is a key fob, but I was thinking of something as shown in the 2nd photo, i.e., > [@](#): > > Most commonly they are simple discs of smooth metal or plastic, typically with a message or symbol such as that of a logo (as with conference tchotchkes) or a sign of an important group affiliation ---
**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8980 "2011-12-06T07:22:03Z")
Movie roles of Steve Martin 1. Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr, “The Man with Two Brains” 2. Navin R. Johnson, The Jerk 3. Harry Telemacher, L.A. Story 4. Insolent Waiter , The Muppet Movie 5. Neal Page - _Plains, Trains and Automobiles_ ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/8981 "2011-12-06T13:15:49Z")
> [@kenetic](#): > > Did you read it at all? > > By their definition EVERYTHING on the list is a key fob, but I was thinking of something as shown in the 2nd photo, i.e., Yes, I read it and found that under that definition, the use of keyfob in the list was redundant. Since I started the list and set the parameters, I found that definition too broad and ascribed it to the most common usage of the term “keyfob” today, as a keyless entry remote. I assumed that this is what **Infovore** intended. Your much broader definition, would include everything on the list and would defeat the purpose of this game. In hindsight, maybe the keyfob entry was the one that should be replaced or specified. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=448) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=450)