# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9102 "2011-12-15T01:51:55Z")

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Musicians who took an amazing amount of hard drugs and are still alive.

1. Keith Richards
2. Stephen Tyler
3. James Taylor
4. Ozzy Osbourne
5. Courtney Love
6. David Crosby
7. Axl Rose
8. Eric Clapton
9. Tony Bennett
10. Eddie Van Halen
11. Judy Garland

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9103 "2011-12-15T04:51:18Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Musicians who took an amazing amount of hard drugs and are still alive.
> 
> 1. Keith Richards
> 2. Stephen Tyler
> 3. James Taylor
> 4. Ozzy Osbourne
> 5. Courtney Love
> 6. David Crosby
> 7. Axl Rose
> 8. Eric Clapton
> 9. Tony Bennett
> 10. Eddie Van Halen
> 11. Judy Garland

Sorry to be the one to break the news, but… Judy’s dead.😉

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9104 "2011-12-15T07:14:46Z")

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Musicians who took an amazing amount of hard drugs and are still alive.

1. Keith Richards
2. Stephen Tyler
3. James Taylor
4. Ozzy Osbourne
5. Courtney Love
6. David Crosby
7. Axl Rose
8. Eric Clapton
9. Tony Bennett
10. Eddie Van Halen
11. Snoop Dogg

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9105 "2011-12-15T13:12:41Z")

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Musicians who took an amazing amount of hard drugs and are still alive.

1. Keith Richards
2. Stephen Tyler
3. James Taylor
4. Ozzy Osbourne
5. Courtney Love
6. David Crosby
7. Axl Rose
8. Eric Clapton
9. Tony Bennett
10. Eddie Van Halen
11. Snoop Dogg
12. Nikki Sixx

In fact, he was was dead once, back in 1987 for 2 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9106 "2011-12-15T13:43:44Z")

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Musicians who took an amazing amount of hard drugs and are still alive.

1. Keith Richards
2. Stephen Tyler
3. James Taylor
4. Ozzy Osbourne
5. Courtney Love
6. David Crosby
7. Axl Rose
8. Eric Clapton
9. Tony Bennett
10. Eddie Van Halen
11. Snoop Dogg
12. Nikki Sixx
13. Pete Townshend

No new category in mind. Somebody else take it.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9107 "2011-12-15T14:43:49Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9108 "2011-12-15T14:47:50Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin}

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9109 "2011-12-15T14:48:15Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9110 "2011-12-15T15:42:01Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9111 "2011-12-15T16:20:26Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (_Night Court_)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9112 "2011-12-15T16:44:17Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (_Night Court_)
6. Judge Greg Mathis

Of the 629 on TV at the moment, he’s the one I’d most want to go before; seems intelligent and has some compassion but doesn’t have tirades like Judy or act constipated-old-man-ny like Brown.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9113 "2011-12-15T17:02:55Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (Night Court)
6. Judge Greg Mathis
7. Judge Roberto Mendoza

Played by Edward James Olmos, and named to the U.S. Supreme Court by President Bartlet in _The West Wing_.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9114 "2011-12-15T17:41:40Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (_Night Court_)
6. Judge Greg Mathis
7. Judge Roberto Mendoza
8. Judge Mills Lane

“I was born at night… but not last night”

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**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9115 "2011-12-16T01:27:07Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (Night Court)
6. Judge Greg Mathis
7. Judge Roberto Mendoza
8. Judge Mills Lane
9. Judge Banks - Fresh Prince of Bel Air

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9116 "2011-12-16T01:55:18Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (Night Court)
6. Judge Greg Mathis
7. Judge Roberto Mendoza
8. Judge Mills Lane
9. Judge Banks - Fresh Prince of Bel Air
10. Judge Walter Franklin - _The Tony Randall Show_, a good series that only lasted two seasons.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9117 "2011-12-16T17:32:58Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (Night Court)
6. Judge Greg Mathis
7. Judge Roberto Mendoza
8. Judge Mills Lane
9. Judge Banks - Fresh Prince of Bel Air
10. Judge Walter Franklin - _The Tony Randall Show_, a good series that only lasted two seasons.
11. Judge Jerry Sheindlin or Judge Judy’s Husband (Peoples’ Court 1999-2001)

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9118 "2011-12-16T17:42:09Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (Night Court)
6. Judge Greg Mathis
7. Judge Roberto Mendoza
8. Judge Mills Lane
9. Judge Banks - Fresh Prince of Bel Air
10. Judge Walter Franklin - The Tony Randall Show, a good series that only lasted two seasons.
11. Judge Jerry Sheindlin or Judge Judy’s Husband (Peoples’ Court 1999-2001)
12. Judge Elizabeth Donnelly (L&O:SVU)

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9119 "2011-12-16T17:46:09Z")

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TV judges

1. Judge Joseph Wapner
2. Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin)
3. Judge Marilyn Milian
4. Judge Joe Brown
5. Judge Stone (Night Court)
6. Judge Greg Mathis
7. Judge Roberto Mendoza
8. Judge Mills Lane
9. Judge Banks - Fresh Prince of Bel Air
10. Judge Walter Franklin - The Tony Randall Show, a good series that only lasted two seasons.
11. Judge Jerry Sheindlin or Judge Judy’s Husband (Peoples’ Court 1999-2001)
12. Judge Elizabeth Donnelly (L&O:SVU)
13. Judge Alex

Next: TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why.

1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9120 "2011-12-16T18:09:41Z")

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TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why.

1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs)
2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9121 "2011-12-16T19:39:38Z")

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TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why.

1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs)
2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity)
3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom)

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