# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 457
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9122 "2011-12-16T19:48:25Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9123 "2011-12-16T22:50:03Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9124 "2011-12-17T03:01:07Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9125 "2011-12-17T05:33:48Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9126 "2011-12-17T12:25:54Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) 8. All in the Family (first major television show to feature the sound of a flushing toilet, among other things) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9127 "2011-12-17T16:20:13Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) 8. All in the Family (first major television show to feature the sound of a flushing toilet, among other things) 9. Maude (First prime time lead character to have a legal abortion) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9128 "2011-12-17T17:27:35Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. > > 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) > 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) > 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) > 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) > 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) > 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) > 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) > 8. All in the Family (first major television show to feature the sound of a flushing toilet, among other things) All in the Family (first series to be mentioned twice in this category) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9129 "2011-12-17T17:29:46Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) 8. Maude (First prime time lead character to have a legal abortion) 9. [Nothing Sacred](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Sacred_(TV_series)) (religious issues) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9130 "2011-12-17T19:41:26Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) 8. Maude (First prime time lead character to have a legal abortion) 9. Nothing Sacred (religious issues) 10. Peyton Place (sexual themes) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9131 "2011-12-17T21:30:40Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) 8. Maude (First prime time lead character to have a legal abortion) 9. Nothing Sacred (religious issues) 10. Peyton Place (sexual themes) 11. Mork & Mindy (pioneered the mobile fourth camera in sitcoms) If you look at older sitcoms, you’ll notice that the performers tend to stay on their marks. Their movements were carefully scripted to work with the three cameras that were recording the show. But Robin Williams wouldn’t stay on his marks - he moved around on the stage freely and would walk out of the set camera angles. So Garry Marshall had to add a fourth camera which was mobile in order to follow Williams’ performance. Once _Mork & Mindy_ had shown it was possible to have freely moving cameras, other shows began using them as well. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9132 "2011-12-18T02:57:55Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) 8. Maude (First prime time lead character to have a legal abortion) 9. Nothing Sacred (religious issues) 10. Peyton Place (sexual themes) 11. Mork & Mindy (pioneered the mobile fourth camera in sitcoms) 12. I Love Lucy (first prominent pregnancy on-air) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9133 "2011-12-19T14:51:29Z")
TV shows that were considered “groundbreaking” or “revolutionary” in their day, and the reason why. 1. Hill Street Blues (first popular drama to have continuing story arcs) 2. NYPD Blue (unprecedented nudity) 3. All in the Family (controversial political topics in a sitcom) 4. Mary Tyler Moore Show (first unmarried, working female sitcom lead) 5. Julia (lead character was a black female working not as a domestic, but as a nurse) 6. Star Trek (first woman shown in command; interracial and international crew incl. a Russian officer; first interracial kiss on primetime TV) 7. Soap (use of “adult” topics in a sitcom) 8. Maude (First prime time lead character to have a legal abortion) 9. Nothing Sacred (religious issues) 10. Peyton Place (sexual themes) 11. Mork & Mindy (pioneered the mobile fourth camera in sitcoms) 12. I Love Lucy (first prominent pregnancy on-air) 13. Will & Grace (first gay title character) Next Up: From a game I was playing at a tree trimming party yesterday: Holiday songs that specifically mention the little baby Jesus by name 1. Little Drummer Boy ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9134 "2011-12-19T14:58:17Z")
Holiday songs that specifically mention the little baby Jesus by name 1. Little Drummer Boy 2. Away in a Manger ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9135 "2011-12-19T16:04:56Z")
Holiday songs that specifically mention the little baby Jesus by name 1. Little Drummer Boy 2. Away in a Manger 3. Silent Night In the often skipped third chorus: Silent night, holy night Son of God, love’s pure light Radiant beams from Thy holy face With the dawn of redeeming grace Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9136 "2011-12-19T19:43:01Z")
Holiday songs that specifically mention the little baby Jesus by name 1. Little Drummer Boy 2. Away in a Manger 3. Silent Night 4. Hark the Herald Angels Sing Pleased as man with man to dwell Jesus, our Emmanuel Hark! The herald angels sing “Glory to the newborn King!” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9137 "2011-12-20T01:39:34Z")
Ironically enough, **Annie** , I don’t think your very first song mentions Jesus by name: [LITTLE DRUMMER BOY lyrics \*\*\*](http://www.carols.org.uk/little_drummer_boy.htm) ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9138 "2011-12-20T01:46:27Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Ironically enough, **Annie** , I don’t think your very first song mentions Jesus by name: [LITTLE DRUMMER BOY lyrics \*\*\*](http://www.carols.org.uk/little_drummer_boy.htm) Yes it does - alternate lyrics to the second verse: [QUOTE=altlyrics] Baby Jesú, pa rum pum pum pum [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9139 "2011-12-20T03:10:51Z")
Holiday songs that specifically mention the little baby Jesus by name 1. Little Drummer Boy 2. Away in a Manger 3. Silent Night 4. Hark the Herald Angels Sing 5. It’s Jesus’ Birthday (Bob Rivers’ take-off) ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9140 "2011-12-20T03:15:11Z")
Holiday songs that specifically mention the little baby Jesus by name 1. Little Drummer Boy 2. Away in a Manger 3. Silent Night 4. Hark the Herald Angels Sing 5. It’s Jesus’ Birthday (Bob Rivers’ take-off) 6. [Jesus, Oh What a Wonderful Child](http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/christmas_songs/jesus_oh_what_a_wonderful_child.html) ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9141 "2011-12-20T12:25:27Z")
Holiday songs that specifically mention the little baby Jesus by name 1. Little Drummer Boy 2. Away in a Manger 3. Silent Night 4. Hark the Herald Angels Sing 5. It’s Jesus’ Birthday (Bob Rivers’ take-off) 6. Jesus, Oh What a Wonderful Child 7. Mary’s Boy Child [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=456) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=458)