# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9362 "2012-01-12T02:59:29Z")

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Celebrities who have voiced characters (not themselves) on the Simpsons, and who they voiced.

1. Kathleen Turner–Stacy Lovell, creator of the Malibu Stacy doll
2. Johnny Cash - The Coyote
3. Kelsey Grammer - Sideshow Bob
4. Harvey Fierstein- Karl (Homer’s secretary)
5. David Hyde Pierce - Cecil Terwilliger
6. Michael Jackson - Leon Kompowsky
7. Kesha - the entire cast (“TiK ToK” opening sequence)
8. Dustin Hoffman – Mr. Bergstrom, a substitute teacher
9. Albert Brooks - [Cowboy Bob](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Cowboy_Bob), [Jacques](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Jacques), [Tab Spangler](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Tab_Spangler), [Brad Goodman](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Brad_Goodman), and the immortal [Hank Scorpio](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Hank_Scorpio). He also voiced [Russ Cargill](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Russ_Cargill) in _The Simpsons Movie_
10. Phil Hartman - Lionel Hutz and Troy McClure
11. Joe Mantegna - Fat Tony D’Amico[
12. Danny DeVito- Herbert (Homer’s older half-brother)

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9363 "2012-01-12T04:44:50Z")

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Celebrities who have voiced characters (not themselves) on the Simpsons, and who they voiced.

1. Kathleen Turner–Stacy Lovell, creator of the Malibu Stacy doll
2. Johnny Cash - The Coyote
3. Kelsey Grammer - Sideshow Bob
4. Harvey Fierstein- Karl (Homer’s secretary)
5. David Hyde Pierce - Cecil Terwilliger
6. Michael Jackson - Leon Kompowsky
7. Kesha - the entire cast (“TiK ToK” opening sequence)
8. Dustin Hoffman – Mr. Bergstrom, a substitute teacher
9. Albert Brooks - Cowboy Bob, Jacques, Tab Spangler, Brad Goodman, and the immortal Hank Scorpio. He also voiced Russ Cargill in The Simpsons Movie
10. Phil Hartman - Lionel Hutz and Troy McClure
11. Joe Mantegna - Fat Tony D’Amico
12. Danny DeVito- Herbert (Homer’s older half-brother)
13. Jon Lovitz - Artie Ziff, Mr. Seckofsky, Professor Lombardo, Aristotle Amadopoulis, paparazzo Enrico Irritazio, Llewellyn Sinclair, Ms. Sinclair, Jay Sherman

Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9364 "2012-01-12T09:46:41Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_

Although I suppose some might say that _Citizen Kane_ wasn’t merely arguably superior.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9365 "2012-01-12T17:34:45Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ to _Forrest Gump_

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9366 "2012-01-12T17:52:19Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. Goodfellas, lost to Dances with Wolves
2. Citizen Kane, lost to How Green Was My Valley
3. Pulp Fiction to Forrest Gump
4. _Gone With The Wind_ to _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights._

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9367 "2012-01-12T20:13:54Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. Goodfellas, lost to Dances with Wolves

2. Citizen Kane, lost to How Green Was My Valley

3. Pulp Fiction to Forrest Gump

4. _Gone With The Wind_ to _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights._  
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5. _Crash_ over _Brokeback Mountain_, _Good Night and Good Luck_, _Capote_, and _Munich_.

Most of the others had better Vegas odds of the award, which may have much to do with why _Crash_, which was nobody’s darlin’, won.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9368 "2012-01-12T20:58:09Z")

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1. Citizen Kane, lost to How Green Was My Valley
2. Pulp Fiction lost to Forrest Gump
3. Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights lost to Gone with the Wind
4. Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote, and Munich lost to Crash

Fixed

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9369 "2012-01-12T21:06:05Z")

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Fixed? Not so much.

Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9370 "2012-01-12T21:30:51Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Fixed? Not so much.

:smack:  
Thanks, **EH**. I will have to agree to strongly disagree with #6.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9371 "2012-01-12T21:38:17Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_
7. _Saving Private Ryan_ lost to _Shakespeare In Love_

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9372 "2012-01-12T21:41:05Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_
7. Saving Private Ryan lost to Shakespeare In Love
8. _Apocalypse Now_ lost to _Kramer v. Kramer_

Aside: my first job was at a home for the mentally retarded and the first day I worked I was to take them to an older movie theatre that showed $1 older movies, so me and another worker took twelve mentally challenged men to see _Kramer v. Kramer_, not exactly a movie that keeps childlike minds engaged and entertained.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9373 "2012-01-12T22:04:03Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_
7. _Saving Private Ryan_ lost to \*Shakespeare In Love \*
8. _Apocalypse Now_ lost to _Kramer v. Kramer_
9. _High Noon_ lost to _The Greatest Show on Earth_

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9374 "2012-01-13T04:53:33Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_
7. _Saving Private Ryan_ lost to \*Shakespeare In Love \*
8. _Apocalypse Now_ lost to _Kramer v. Kramer_
9. _High Noon_ lost to _The Greatest Show on Earth_
10. _Dr. Strangelove_ lost to _My Fair Lady_

Both good movies, but c’mon, Kubrick’s was better.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9375 "2012-01-13T08:06:25Z")

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1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_
7. _Saving Private Ryan_ lost to \*Shakespeare In Love \*
8. _Apocalypse Now_ lost to _Kramer v. Kramer_
9. _High Noon_ lost to _The Greatest Show on Earth_
10. _Dr. Strangelove_ lost to _My Fair Lady_
11. _Double Indemnity_ lost to _Going My Way_

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9376 "2012-01-13T18:15:39Z")

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1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_
7. _Saving Private Ryan_ lost to \*Shakespeare In Love \*
8. _Apocalypse Now_ lost to _Kramer v. Kramer_
9. _High Noon_ lost to _The Greatest Show on Earth_
10. _Dr. Strangelove_ lost to _My Fair Lady_
11. _Double Indemnity_ lost to _Going My Way_
12. _The Front Page_ lost to _Cimarron_

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9377 "2012-01-13T20:58:35Z")

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Best Picture Nominees that were arguably superior to the Best Picture Winners

1. _Goodfellas_, lost to _Dances with Wolves_
2. _Citizen Kane_, lost to _How Green Was My Valley_
3. _Pulp Fiction_ lost to _Forrest Gump_
4. _Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, & Wuthering Heights_ lost to _Gone with the Wind_
5. _Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, Capote_, and _Munich_ lost to _Crash_
6. _Star Wars_ lost to _Annie Hall_
7. _Saving Private Ryan_ lost to \*Shakespeare In Love \*
8. _Apocalypse Now_ lost to _Kramer v. Kramer_
9. _High Noon_ lost to _The Greatest Show on Earth_
10. _Dr. Strangelove_ lost to _My Fair Lady_
11. _Double Indemnity_ lost to _Going My Way_
12. _The Front Page_ lost to _Cimarron_
13. Zeffirelli’s _Romeo and Juliet_ lost to _Oliver!_

Up next: Famous Word War II Veterans (other than those famous for military service)

1. Charles Durning

Ubiquitous character actor; D-Day veteran

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9378 "2012-01-13T21:05:48Z")

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Famous Word War II Veterans (other than those famous for military service)

1. Charles Durning
2. James Doohan

Wounded and lost a finger to friendly fire on D-Day while serving with the Royal Canadian Artillery.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9379 "2012-01-13T21:16:04Z")

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Famous Word War II Veterans (other than those famous for military service)

1. Charles Durning
2. James Doohan
3. Kurt Vonnegut

Most famous experience- surviving the bombing of Dresden bunkered/locked in Schlachthof 5.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9380 "2012-01-13T21:22:44Z")

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Famous Word War II Veterans (other than those famous for military service)

1. Charles Durning
2. James Doohan
3. Kurt Vonnegut
4. JFK

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/9381 "2012-01-13T21:31:04Z")

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Famous Word War II Veterans (other than those famous for military service)

1. Charles Durning
2. James Doohan
3. Kurt Vonnegut
4. JFK
5. Yogi Berra

Served as a Navy gunner’s mate during the D-Day invasion.

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