# Bakers Dozen

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**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/81 "2010-08-09T16:36:36Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> 1. Erik Weisz (Harry Houdini) - Punched in the stomach, which ruptured his appendix

Nope. Just a coincidence. He died of regular appendicitis.

> **[Did Houdini Die from a Punch to the Stomach?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/death-of-houdini/)**
>
> Did Harry Houdini die from a ruptured appendix caused by a punch in the stomach?

Oh, and:

1. Boston
2. Kingston (Albany wasn’t officially named New York’s capital until 1797)
3. Trenton
4. Philadelphia
5. Providence
6. Columbia, S.C.
7. Richmond

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/82 "2010-08-09T18:57:53Z")

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Original Thirteen Colonies’ capitals, then or now:

1. Boston, Mass.
2. Kingston, N.Y.
3. Trenton, N.J.
4. Philadelphia, Pa.
5. Providence, R.I.
6. Columbia, S.C.
7. Richmond, Va.
8. Concord, N.H.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/83 "2010-08-09T19:19:34Z")

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Original Thirteen Colonies’ capitals, then or now:

1. Boston, Mass.
2. Kingston, N.Y.
3. Trenton, N.J.
4. Philadelphia, Pa.
5. Providence, R.I.
6. Columbia, S.C.
7. Richmond, Va.
8. Concord, N.H.
9. Hartford (now); Hartford and New Haven (then), Connecticut[sup]\*[/sup]

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> [sup]\*[/sup]From 1703 to 1875, Connecticut had two capitals; sessions of the General Assembly met alternately in Hartford and New Haven. Since then, the capital has been Hartford.

]([Information Page](http://www.ct.gov/ctportal/cwp/view.asp?a=843&q=246434))

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/84 "2010-08-09T23:57:18Z")

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Original Thirteen Colonies’ capitals, then or now:

1. Boston, Mass.
2. Kingston, N.Y.
3. Trenton, N.J.
4. Philadelphia, Pa.
5. Providence, R.I.
6. Columbia, S.C.
7. Richmond, Va.
8. Concord, N.H.
9. Hartford (now); Hartford and New Haven (then), Connecticut\*
10. Annapolis, Maryland (once named Providence)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/85 "2010-08-10T01:21:43Z")

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Original Thirteen Colonies’ capitals, then or now:

1. Boston, Mass.
2. Kingston, N.Y.
3. Trenton, N.J.
4. Philadelphia, Pa.
5. Providence, R.I.
6. Columbia, S.C.
7. Richmond, Va.
8. Concord, N.H.
9. Hartford (now); Hartford and New Haven (then), Connecticut\*
10. Annapolis, Maryland (once named Providence)
11. Raleigh, N.C.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/86 "2010-08-10T01:27:20Z")

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Original Thirteen Colonies’ capitals, then or now:

1. Boston, Mass.
2. Kingston, N.Y.
3. Trenton, N.J.
4. Philadelphia, Pa.
5. Providence, R.I.
6. Columbia, S.C.
7. Richmond, Va.
8. Concord, N.H.
9. Hartford (now); Hartford and New Haven (then), Connecticut\*
10. Annapolis, Maryland (once named Providence)
11. Raleigh, N.C.
12. Dover, Delaware

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/87 "2010-08-10T01:41:29Z")

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Original Thirteen Colonies’ capitals, then or now:

1. Boston, Mass.
2. Kingston, N.Y.
3. Trenton, N.J.
4. Philadelphia, Pa.
5. Providence, R.I.
6. Columbia, S.C.
7. Richmond, Va.
8. Concord, N.H.
9. Hartford (now); Hartford and New Haven (then), Connecticut\*
10. Annapolis, Maryland (once named Providence)
11. Raleigh, N.C.
12. Dover, Delaware
13. Williamsburg, VA

New list: towns in the United States named Springfield (with accompanying population)

1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/88 "2010-08-10T01:48:47Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)

See if we can keep shrinking the populations of it!

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/89 "2010-08-10T01:51:44Z")

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towns in the United States named Springfield (with accompanying population)

1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/90 "2010-08-10T01:54:21Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/91 "2010-08-10T02:47:07Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/92 "2010-08-10T02:59:29Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Original Thirteen Colonies’ capitals, then or now:
> 
> 1. Boston, Mass.
> 2. Kingston, N.Y.
> 3. Trenton, N.J.
> 4. Philadelphia, Pa.
> 5. Providence, R.I.
> 6. Columbia, S.C.
> 7. **Richmond, Va.**
> 8. Concord, N.H.
> 9. Hartford (now); Hartford and New Haven (then), Connecticut\*
> 10. Annapolis, Maryland (once named Providence)
> 11. Raleigh, N.C.
> 12. Dover, Delaware
> 13. **Williamsburg, VA**

:smack::smack::smack:  
That last one should be Savannah, GA. Williamsburg was the capital until 1779, prior to moving to Richmond.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/93 "2010-08-10T03:12:38Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/94 "2010-08-10T03:22:54Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)
7. Springfield, ID (pop. [149](http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=83277))

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/95 "2010-08-10T03:32:13Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)
7. Springfield, ID (pop. 149)
8. Springfield, MO (pop. 157,630)

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/96 "2010-08-10T11:54:20Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)
7. Springfield, ID (pop. 149)
8. Springfield, MO (pop. 157,630)
9. Springfield, MA (pop 150,640)

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/97 "2010-08-10T12:06:49Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)
7. Springfield, ID (pop. 149)
8. Springfield, MO (pop. 157,630)
9. Springfield, MA (pop 150,640)
10. Springfield, OR (pop 58,005)

(How weird would it have been if no one listed **Oregon**? I know it’s not _the_ Springfield, but it really should be on the list.)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/98 "2010-08-10T12:20:31Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)
7. Springfield, ID (pop. 149)
8. Springfield, MO (pop. 157,630)
9. Springfield, MA (pop 150,640)
10. Springfield, OR (pop 58,005)
11. Springfield, AR ([pop 1,417](http://www.zip-codes.com/city/AR-SPRINGFIELD.asp))  
Since the one closest to me (Springfield, MO) is already taken, I googled and found one I didn’t know existed in my actual state.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/99 "2010-08-10T13:53:09Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)
7. Springfield, ID (pop. 149)
8. Springfield, MO (pop. 157,630)
9. Springfield, MA (pop 150,640)
10. Springfield, OR (pop 58,005)
11. Springfield, AR (pop 1,417)
12. Springfield, MN (pop. 2,215)

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/100 "2010-08-10T14:44:48Z")

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1. Springfield, NJ (pop. 14,429)
2. Springfield, MI (pop. 5,189)
3. Springfield, VT (pop. 9,078)
4. Springfield, IL (pop. 117,352)
5. Springfield, NY (pop. 1,350)
6. Springfield, SC (pop. 504)
7. Springfield, ID (pop. 149)
8. Springfield, MO (pop. 157,630)
9. Springfield, MA (pop 150,640)
10. Springfield, OR (pop 58,005)
11. Springfield, AR (pop 1,417)
12. Springfield, MN (pop. 2,215)
13. Springfield, OH (pop. 65,358)

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