# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 539
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10762 "2012-05-01T20:54:04Z")
TV shows about people with unconventional jobs for TV-show characters (with the job) 1. Movin’ On (truck drivers) 2. Alice (waitresses) 3. Scandal (spin doctor) 4. Major Dad (Marine officer) 5. Spin City (Deputy Mayor) 6. Sanford and Son (Junk Dealer) 7. 2 1/2 Men (Advertising Jingle Writer) 8. Home Improvement (Handyman) 9. Bob (Comic-book writer) 10. Married with Children (shoe salesman) 11. The Nanny (Broadway producer) 12. The Client List (prostitute) ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10763 "2012-05-01T21:53:04Z")
TV shows about people with unconventional jobs for TV-show characters (with the job) 1. Movin’ On (truck drivers) 2. Alice (waitresses) 3. Scandal (spin doctor) 4. Major Dad (Marine officer) 5. Spin City (Deputy Mayor) 6. Sanford and Son (Junk Dealer) 7. 2 1/2 Men (Advertising Jingle Writer) 8. Home Improvement (Handyman) 9. Bob (Comic-book writer) 10. Married with Children (shoe salesman) 11. The Nanny (Broadway producer) 12. The Client List (prostitute) 13. Frasier (radio show host and psychiatrist) This one was mine so I’ll pass the next one. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10764 "2012-05-01T23:38:41Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s [Top 500 Albums of All Time](http://archer2000.tripod.com/sbs/awardsrs500.html): 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King (THE seminal prog album-criminal to leave it off) [Link is to the 2003 list as I could not find a nice, single, easily searchable web page for the 2012 list on newsstands right now, but, knowing them, not much has changed I’m sure in 9 years.] ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10765 "2012-05-01T23:46:01Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s [Top 500 Albums of All Time](http://archer2000.tripod.com/sbs/awardsrs500.html): 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - _Doc at the Radar Station_ A better album than _Trout Mask Replica_, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10766 "2012-05-01T23:55:14Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s [Top 500 Albums of All Time](http://archer2000.tripod.com/sbs/awardsrs500.html): 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - _Doc at the Radar Station_ 3. Animals - Pink Floyd Awesome topic. The finding one not out of 500 is a great twist. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10767 "2012-05-02T00:09:08Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s [Top 500 Albums of All Time](http://archer2000.tripod.com/sbs/awardsrs500.html): 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - _Doc at the Radar Station_ 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 WTF?! What kind of list of greatest albums of all time includes greatest hits, movie soundtracks, and compilation albums? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10768 "2012-05-02T01:24:31Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s [Top 500 Albums of All Time](http://archer2000.tripod.com/sbs/awardsrs500.html): 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - _Doc at the Radar Station_ 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - _Overnight Sensation_ IMHO that Rolling Stone list is a pretty darned good list. I’m very hard pressed to NOT find any of my favourites on there. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10769 "2012-05-02T01:49:50Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s [Top 500 Albums of All Time](http://archer2000.tripod.com/sbs/awardsrs500.html): 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - _Doc at the Radar Station_ 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - _Overnight Sensation_ 6. The Kinks - _Give the People What They Want_ The list had two Kinks albums from the sixties and a greatest hits collection from 1972 but the Kinks kept making some really good music. In my opinion, this album (from 1981) is as good as any of their early work. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10770 "2012-05-02T02:11:04Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s Top 500 Albums of All Time: 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Overnight Sensation 6. The Kinks - Give the People What They Want 7. Electric Light Orchestra - A New World Record ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10771 "2012-05-02T03:38:06Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s Top 500 Albums of All Time: 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Overnight Sensation 6. The Kinks - Give the People What They Want 7. Electric Light Orchestra - A New World Record 8. The Doughnut in Granny’s Greenhouse - The Bonzo Dog Band > [@Sparky812](#): > > WTF?! What kind of list of greatest albums of all time includes greatest hits, movie soundtracks, and compilation albums? Agreed. A simple count found 9 “Greatest Hits” and 2 soundtracks. Bizarre to include GHs and compilations on a greatest albums list. That still leaves 489 good choices; maybe that balances things out. ---
**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10772 "2012-05-02T04:59:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Scandal (spin doctor) > > Some reviewer mentioned this new show was the first TV series to use this profession. I’ll dispute that: The Thick of It (definitely): [The Thick of It - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_thick_of_it) Yes Minister (arguably): [Yes Minister - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_minister) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10773 "2012-05-02T05:49:44Z")
> [@JessMagic](#): > > I’ll dispute that: > > The Thick of It (definitely): [The Thick of It - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_thick_of_it) > Yes Minister (arguably): [Yes Minister - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_minister) The reviewer may have meant it’s the first American series. Or they may have been making a distinction between a government spokesman and a private PR consultant. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10774 "2012-05-02T05:51:32Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s Top 500 Albums of All Time: 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Overnight Sensation 6. The Kinks - Give the People What They Want 7. Electric Light Orchestra - A New World Record 8. The Doughnut in Granny’s Greenhouse - The Bonzo Dog Band 9. Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10775 "2012-05-02T06:47:46Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s Top 500 Albums of All Time: 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Overnight Sensation 6. The Kinks - Give the People What They Want 7. Electric Light Orchestra - A New World Record 8. The Doughnut in Granny’s Greenhouse - The Bonzo Dog Band 9. Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair [/QUOTE] 10. Jesus Christ Superstar The original concept album with Murray Head. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10776 "2012-05-02T12:10:31Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Agreed. A simple count found 9 “Greatest Hits” and 2 soundtracks. Bizarre to include GHs and compilations on a greatest albums list. That still leaves 489 good choices; maybe that balances things out. By my count there are 10 Greatest hits albums, 2 Soundtracks, 7 Anthologies, 5 Compilations, and 8 live albums included. Although IMHO some live albums are great… so where the hell is Peter Frampton’s Comes Alive? Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s Top 500 Albums of All Time: 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station 3. Animals - Pink Floyd 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Overnight Sensation 6. The Kinks - Give the People What They Want 7. Electric Light Orchestra - A New World Record 8. The Doughnut in Granny’s Greenhouse - The Bonzo Dog Band 9. Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair [/quote] 10. Jesus Christ Superstar 11. Peter Frampton - Comes Alive The list is slightly ridiculous. For example, Otis Redding is one of the greats but they’ve included: 1. Otis Blue, Otis Redding 2. The Dock of the Bay, Otis Redding 3. The Otis Redding Dictionary of Soul, Otis Redding 4. Live in Europe, Otis Redding OK, arguably all great albums but then they include this crappy compliation? [FONT=Arial]147. Dreams to Remember: The Otis Redding Anthology, Otis Redding [/FONT] ---
**Author:** ![janis\_and\_c0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janis_and_c0/32/21_2.png) [@janis\_and\_c0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janis_and_c0)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10777 "2012-05-02T14:25:12Z")
Because **Rolling Stone** is idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10778 "2012-05-02T16:12:31Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s Top 500 Albums of All Time: 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station 3. Pink Floyd - Animals 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Overnight Sensation 6. The Kinks - Give the People What They Want 7. Electric Light Orchestra - A New World Record 8. The Bonzo Dog Band - The Doughnut in Granny’s Greenhouse 9. Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair 10. Jesus Christ Superstar 11. Peter Frampton - Comes Alive 12. “Weird Al” Yankovic - “Weird Al” Yankovic Because rock and roll shouldn’t be taken too seriously ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10779 "2012-05-02T17:20:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The reviewer may have meant it’s the first American series. Or they may have been making a distinction between a government spokesman and a private PR consultant. If that’s the case, they’re (he is) still wrong; Samantha Jones on Sex and the City owned and ran a private PR firm. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10780 "2012-05-02T18:43:56Z")
Best albums which didn’t make the cut for Rolling Stone’s Top 500 Albums of All Time: 1. King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King 2. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station 3. Pink Floyd - Animals 4. Rush - 2112 5. Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Overnight Sensation 6. The Kinks - Give the People What They Want 7. Electric Light Orchestra - A New World Record 8. The Bonzo Dog Band - The Doughnut in Granny’s Greenhouse 9. Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair 10. Jesus Christ Superstar 11. Peter Frampton - Comes Alive 12. “Weird Al” Yankovic - “Weird Al” Yankovic 13. Boston - Boston IMHO maybe the most glaring omission. 13 ways you don’t want to make yourself famous. 1.) Be nominated (or win) a Darwin Award. ---
**Author:** ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/10781 "2012-05-02T19:54:07Z")
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