# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11022 "2012-05-24T02:31:27Z")

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Actors/Actresses with worst luck on new shows being cancelled, include shows.

1. Laura Innes - The Event, Awake
2. Don Rickles - Don Rickles Show (2), CPO Sharkey, Daddy Dearest.
3. Lindsay Price - Coupling, Pepper Dennis, Lipstick Jungle, Eastwick
4. Sean Maher- in the past year he’s been a regular in The Playboy Club (7 episodes [cancelled after the 2nd episode aired]) and Make it or Break It (8 episodes), but is most famous for his role in Firefly (14 episodes)
5. Leslie Nielsen - Police Squad
6. Paget Brewster - Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Huff, Stacked, etc.
7. Tim Conway - Turn On and several shows (before and after Carol Burnett) with Tim Conway Show in the title in some form
8. Summer Glau - Firefly, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Cape

Cleaning up numbering issues. Nothing to see here. Move along.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11023 "2012-05-24T17:14:48Z")

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Actors/Actresses with worst luck on new shows being cancelled, include shows.

1. Laura Innes - The Event, Awake, The Louis Show, ER
2. Don Rickles - Don Rickles Show (2), CPO Sharkey, Daddy Dearest.
3. Lindsay Price - Coupling, Pepper Dennis, Lipstick Jungle, Eastwick
4. Sean Maher- in the past year he’s been a regular in The Playboy Club (7 episodes [cancelled after the 2nd episode aired]) and Make it or Break It (8 episodes), but is most famous for his role in Firefly (14 episodes)
5. Leslie Nielsen - Police Squad
6. Paget Brewster - Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Huff, Stacked, etc.
7. Tim Conway - Turn On and several shows (before and after Carol Burnett) with Tim Conway Show in the title in some form
8. Summer Glau - Firefly, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Cape
9. Will Arnett - _The Underworld, The Mike O’Malley Show, Loomis, Still Standing, Arrested, Development, Running Wilde, Sit Down, Shut Up, All-Star American Destiny Trek, Eva Adams_

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11024 "2012-05-24T23:10:21Z")

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Actors/Actresses with worst luck on new shows being cancelled, include shows.

1. Laura Innes - The Event, Awake, The Louis Show, ER
2. Don Rickles - Don Rickles Show (2), CPO Sharkey, Daddy Dearest.
3. Lindsay Price - Coupling, Pepper Dennis, Lipstick Jungle, Eastwick
4. Sean Maher- in the past year he’s been a regular in The Playboy Club (7 episodes [cancelled after the 2nd episode aired]) and Make it or Break It (8 episodes), but is most famous for his role in Firefly (14 episodes)
5. Leslie Nielsen - Police Squad
6. Paget Brewster - Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Huff, Stacked, etc.
7. Tim Conway - Turn On and several shows (before and after Carol Burnett) with Tim Conway Show in the title in some form
8. Summer Glau - Firefly, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Cape
9. Will Arnett - _The Underworld, The Mike O’Malley Show, Loomis, Still Standing, Arrested, Development, Running Wilde, Sit Down, Shut Up, All-Star American Destiny Trek, Eva Adams_
10. George Clooney - E.R.\*, Sunset Beat, Baby Talk, Bodies of Evidence, and others

Not _that_ E.R.; he starred in [a sitcom](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086704/)of the same name that was cancelled a season into his joining.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11025 "2012-05-28T05:40:39Z")

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Actors/Actresses with worst luck on new shows being cancelled, include shows.

1. Laura Innes - The Event, Awake, The Louis Show, ER
2. Don Rickles - Don Rickles Show (2), CPO Sharkey, Daddy Dearest.
3. Lindsay Price - Coupling, Pepper Dennis, Lipstick Jungle, Eastwick
4. Sean Maher- in the past year he’s been a regular in The Playboy Club (7 episodes [cancelled after the 2nd episode aired]) and Make it or Break It (8 episodes), but is most famous for his role in Firefly (14 episodes)
5. Leslie Nielsen - Police Squad
6. Paget Brewster - Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Huff, Stacked, etc.
7. Tim Conway - Turn On and several shows (before and after Carol Burnett) with Tim Conway Show in the title in some form
8. Summer Glau - Firefly, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Cape
9. Will Arnett - _The Underworld, The Mike O’Malley Show, Loomis, Still Standing, Arrested, Development, Running Wilde, Sit Down, Shut Up, All-Star American Destiny Trek, Eva Adams_
10. George Clooney - E.R.\*, Sunset Beat, Baby Talk, Bodies of Evidence, and others
11. David Cross - The Ben Stiller Show, Mr Show, Oliver Beene, Freak Show, Arrested Development, Running Wilde

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11026 "2012-05-28T05:57:49Z")

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Actors/Actresses with worst luck on new shows being cancelled, include shows.

1. Laura Innes - The Event, Awake, The Louis Show, ER
2. Don Rickles - Don Rickles Show (2), CPO Sharkey, Daddy Dearest.
3. Lindsay Price - Coupling, Pepper Dennis, Lipstick Jungle, Eastwick
4. Sean Maher- in the past year he’s been a regular in The Playboy Club (7 episodes [cancelled after the 2nd episode aired]) and Make it or Break It (8 episodes), but is most famous for his role in Firefly (14 episodes)
5. Leslie Nielsen - Police Squad
6. Paget Brewster - Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Huff, Stacked, etc.
7. Tim Conway - Turn On and several shows (before and after Carol Burnett) with Tim Conway Show in the title in some form
8. Summer Glau - Firefly, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Cape
9. Will Arnett - The Underworld, The Mike O’Malley Show, Loomis, Still Standing, Arrested, Development, Running Wilde, Sit Down, Shut Up, All-Star American Destiny Trek, Eva Adams
10. George Clooney - E.R.\*, Sunset Beat, Baby Talk, Bodies of Evidence, and others
11. David Cross - The Ben Stiller Show, Mr Show, Oliver Beene, Freak Show, Arrested Development, Running Wilde
12. \*\*Ted McGinley \*\*- _you have to ask?!_

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11027 "2012-05-29T05:48:48Z")

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Actors/Actresses with worst luck on new shows being cancelled, include shows.

1. Laura Innes - The Event, Awake, The Louis Show, ER
2. Don Rickles - Don Rickles Show (2), CPO Sharkey, Daddy Dearest.
3. Lindsay Price - Coupling, Pepper Dennis, Lipstick Jungle, Eastwick
4. Sean Maher- in the past year he’s been a regular in The Playboy Club (7 episodes [cancelled after the 2nd episode aired]) and Make it or Break It (8 episodes), but is most famous for his role in Firefly (14 episodes)
5. Leslie Nielsen - Police Squad
6. Paget Brewster - Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Huff, Stacked, etc.
7. Tim Conway - Turn On and several shows (before and after Carol Burnett) with Tim Conway Show in the title in some form
8. Summer Glau - Firefly, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Cape
9. Will Arnett - The Underworld, The Mike O’Malley Show, Loomis, Still Standing, Arrested, Development, Running Wilde, Sit Down, Shut Up, All-Star American Destiny Trek, Eva Adams
10. George Clooney - E.R.\*, Sunset Beat, Baby Talk, Bodies of Evidence, and others
11. David Cross - The Ben Stiller Show, Mr Show, Oliver Beene, Freak Show, Arrested Development, Running Wilde
12. \*\*Ted McGinley \*\*- _you have to ask?!_
13. **Mary Page Keller** - Camp Wilder, Zoe, Baby Talk

Her nickname in EW magazine in the '90s was actually “Mary Page ‘Kiss of Death’ Keller”.

Next Up- Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11028 "2012-05-29T06:29:04Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Car chase always hitting a fruit seller’s stand.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11029 "2012-05-29T13:36:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Cliches in film/TV westerns
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> 1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
> 2. Car chase always hitting a fruit seller’s stand.

Modern day Western, I guess. 🙂

1. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11030 "2012-05-29T13:39:34Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Car chase always hitting a fruit seller’s stand.
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11031 "2012-05-29T14:03:31Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Car chase always hitting a fruit seller’s stand.
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.

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**Author:** ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11032 "2012-05-29T14:11:14Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Car chase always hitting a fruit seller’s stand.
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11033 "2012-05-29T22:01:44Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Car chase always hitting a fruit seller’s stand.
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).
7. Past-Her-Prime Saloon/Dance Hall owner who’s usually in love with the good guy

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11034 "2012-05-29T23:06:25Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Sweet schoolmarms from back east falling for the hero
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).
7. Past-Her-Prime Saloon/Dance Hall owner who’s usually in love with the good guy
8. **Stampede!!!**

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11035 "2012-05-30T00:58:07Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Sweet schoolmarms from back east falling for the hero
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).
7. Past-Her-Prime Saloon/Dance Hall owner who’s usually in love with the good guy
8. Stampede!!!
9. Leader of posse in hot pursuit: “We’ll head 'em off at the pass!”

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11036 "2012-05-30T01:51:06Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Sweet schoolmarms from back east falling for the hero
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).
7. Past-Her-Prime Saloon/Dance Hall owner who’s usually in love with the good guy
8. Stampede!!!
9. Leader of posse in hot pursuit: “We’ll head 'em off at the pass!”
10. [All western towns are basically the same](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIE1fT395HM)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11037 "2012-05-30T02:19:44Z")

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Cliches in film/TV westerns

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Sweet schoolmarms from back east falling for the hero
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).
7. Past-Her-Prime Saloon/Dance Hall owner who’s usually in love with the good guy
8. Stampede!!!
9. Leader of posse in hot pursuit: “We’ll head 'em off at the pass!”
10. [All western towns are basically the same](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIE1fT395HM)
11. The cavalry riding to the rescue in the nick of time

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11038 "2012-05-30T05:52:25Z")

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Western cliches

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Sweet schoolmarms from back east falling for the hero
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).
7. Past-Her-Prime Saloon/Dance Hall owner who’s usually in love with the good guy
8. Stampede!!!
9. Leader of posse in hot pursuit: “We’ll head 'em off at the pass!”
10. [All western towns are basically the same](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIE1fT395HM)
11. The cavalry riding to the rescue in the nick of time
12. Flute music whenever the wise stoic mystical Native American is shown

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11039 "2012-05-30T09:00:16Z")

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Western cliches

1. The pistol that never seems to run out of bullets
2. Sweet schoolmarms from back east falling for the hero
3. Villain with the pencil thin mustache and string tie
4. Bad guys getting shot off rooftops and falling, usually into a water trough.
5. The bar room poker game.
6. Bad guy, chased by good guy/posse, runs out of bullets, throws gun at pursuer(s).
7. Past-Her-Prime Saloon/Dance Hall owner who’s usually in love with the good guy
8. Stampede!!!
9. Leader of posse in hot pursuit: “We’ll head 'em off at the pass!”
10. [All western towns are basically the same](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIE1fT395HM)
11. The cavalry riding to the rescue in the nick of time
12. Flute music whenever the wise stoic mystical Native American is shown
13. The colorful local miner who seems crazy but turns out to actually know quite a lot

New category: Movies with memorable nude scenes

1. Fast Times at Ridgemont High (Phoebe Cates)

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11040 "2012-05-30T09:49:51Z")

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New category: Movies with memorable nude scenes

1. Fast Times at Ridgemont High (Phoebe Cates)
2. The Crying Game (Jaye Davidson)

Is there a nude scene more memorable than that?

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11041 "2012-05-30T12:24:06Z")

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New category: Movies with memorable nude scenes

1. Fast Times at Ridgemont High (Phoebe Cates)

2. The Crying Game (Jaye Davidson)

3. Pretty Baby (Brooke Shields)

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