# Bakers Dozen

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**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11082 "2012-06-01T21:08:37Z")

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[quote=“Elendil\_s\_Heir, post:11081, topic:549173”]

First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )
2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)
3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)
4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)
5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).
6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.) (Name changed for privacy reasons as her actual name is very uncommon\<\<\<delete this)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11083 "2012-06-02T02:41:43Z")

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First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )
2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)
3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)
4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)
5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).
6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.) (Name changed for privacy reasons as her actual name is very uncommon\<\<\<delete this)
7. Brenda - girlfriend in grade 7, I think there was a closet involved.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11084 "2012-06-02T02:48:42Z")

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First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )
2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)
3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)
4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)
5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).
6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.) (Name changed for privacy reasons as her actual name is very uncommon\<\<\<delete this)
7. Brenda - girlfriend in grade 7, I think there was a closet involved.
8. My spouse, who shall remain nameless. Age 20. On a bench next to a little creek in downtown San Luis Obispo.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11085 "2012-06-02T13:26:47Z")

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First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )
2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)
3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)
4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)
5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).
6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.)
7. Brenda - girlfriend in grade 7, I think there was a closet involved.
8. My spouse, who shall remain nameless. Age 20. On a bench next to a little creek in downtown San Luis Obispo.
9. Alex (female, back when that was still uncommon as a girl’s first name) – I was 19 or 20. She was the daughter of a veterinarian, and my current romantic partner is also a veterinarian, so I see Alex as a “gateway” of sorts into the fascinating world of equine medicine.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11086 "2012-06-05T17:32:05Z")

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Bump!

Apparently, some dopers are still waiting for their first kisses!😃

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**Author:** ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11087 "2012-06-05T18:28:24Z")

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Or don’t remember it. I’m about ready to make somethin up just get this over with. Four days. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11088 "2012-06-06T00:52:30Z")

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First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )
2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)
3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)
4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)
5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).
6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.)
7. Brenda - girlfriend in grade 7, I think there was a closet involved.
8. My spouse, who shall remain nameless. Age 20. On a bench next to a little creek in downtown San Luis Obispo.
9. Alex (female, back when that was still uncommon as a girl’s first name) – I was 19 or 20. She was the daughter of a veterinarian, and my current romantic partner is also a veterinarian, so I see Alex as a “gateway” of sorts into the fascinating world of equine medicine.
10. Becky

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11089 "2012-06-06T00:54:33Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> Bump!
> 
> Apparently, some dopers are still waiting for their first kisses!😃

It’s always a bad idea to have a category that’s specific to an individual. It means each of us can only answer one time and that makes it easy for a category to stall. We need categories where people can submit multiple answers if necessary to keep it moving.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11090 "2012-06-06T01:16:35Z")

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What about a “Topics that would make bad Bakers Dozen topics”?

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11091 "2012-06-06T01:55:47Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
>
> What about a “Topics that would make bad Bakers Dozen topics”?

BTDT - a few months back

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11092 "2012-06-06T04:44:03Z")

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Sorry! ☹

Never occurred to me that there were fewer than 13 regular players. :o

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**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11093 "2012-06-06T05:55:02Z")

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First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )
2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)
3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)
4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)
5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).
6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.)
7. Brenda - girlfriend in grade 7, I think there was a closet involved.
8. My spouse, who shall remain nameless. Age 20. On a bench next to a little creek in downtown San Luis Obispo.
9. Alex (female, back when that was still uncommon as a girl’s first name) – I was 19 or 20. She was the daughter of a veterinarian, and my current romantic partner is also a veterinarian, so I see Alex as a “gateway” of sorts into the fascinating world of equine medicine.
10. Becky
11. Lynne. I think it was at a school disco.

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11094 "2012-06-06T14:11:35Z")

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First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )
2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)
3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)
4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)
5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).
6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.)
7. Brenda - girlfriend in grade 7, I think there was a closet involved.
8. My spouse, who shall remain nameless. Age 20. On a bench next to a little creek in downtown San Luis Obispo.
9. Alex (female, back when that was still uncommon as a girl’s first name) – I was 19 or 20. She was the daughter of a veterinarian, and my current romantic partner is also a veterinarian, so I see Alex as a “gateway” of sorts into the fascinating world of equine medicine.
10. Becky
11. Lynne. I think it was at a school disco.
12. Maryann. The summer between grade 7 and grade 8, circa 1975. In retrospect, I can’t believe how nervous I was about the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11095 "2012-06-06T20:07:56Z")

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First name of your first (for real) kiss (and any details):

1. Kim (8th grade, oh those eyes… Left me for some football player, the wench. )

2. Jim (he was in the army and left for Germany a few months later)

3. Naomi (13, and why I will always have a very warm place in my heart for summer theatre)

4. Stuart (17 - we had had some wine at a party and took a walk in th Autumn night air. It was soft and warm and I obsessed over him for the next two years. He’s a doctor now; I’m pretty sure he’s married with a couple of happy kids and maybe even a grandkid by now)

5. Judy (13 - had a sweet face but was a little cross-eyed and wore big glasses; was in middle school band with me - we agreed to go steady without really even knowing what that meant! Haven’t thought about her in years. =Sigh=).

6. Eileen (20 - She had dark curly hair and was sweetly sardonic. I was in love with her for four years, only had one real kiss, on the beach at night on the rocks-hugely intense and romantic.)

7. Brenda - girlfriend in grade 7, I think there was a closet involved.

8. My spouse, who shall remain nameless. Age 20. On a bench next to a little creek in downtown San Luis Obispo.

9. Alex (female, back when that was still uncommon as a girl’s first name) – I was 19 or 20. She was the daughter of a veterinarian, and my current romantic partner is also a veterinarian, so I see Alex as a “gateway” of sorts into the fascinating world of equine medicine.

10. Becky

11. Lynne. I think it was at a school disco.

12. Maryann. The summer between grade 7 and grade 8, circa 1975. In retrospect, I can’t believe how nervous I was about the whole thing.  
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13. Jane (in a past life that I’m channeling because I want to kill this topic)

New topic: breeds of dogs

1. Collie

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11096 "2012-06-06T20:13:33Z")

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New topic: breeds of dogs

1. Collie
2. Pug

Thank _goodness_ that last one is over! 🙂

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11097 "2012-06-06T21:41:37Z")

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New topic: breeds of dogs

1. Collie
2. Pug
3. [Azawakh](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azawakh)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11098 "2012-06-06T21:54:19Z")

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New topic: breeds of dogs

1. Collie
2. Pug
3. [Azawakh](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azawakh)
4. Scottish Terrier

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11099 "2012-06-06T22:02:31Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
>
> It’s always a bad idea to have a category that’s specific to an individual. It means each of us can only answer one time and that makes it easy for a category to stall. We need categories where people can submit multiple answers if necessary to keep it moving.

In my “defense”, I would like to note that the previous category also fell within the category of being specific to an individual and, imho, I thought it would be at least as easy to remember your first kiss as your first album purchase.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11100 "2012-06-06T22:22:26Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
>
> In my “defense”, I would like to note that the previous category also fell within the category of being specific to an individual and, imho, I thought it would be at least as easy to remember your first kiss as your first album purchase.

I agree. Both categories had this issue.

I don’t think it’s an issue of remembering. It’s an issue of specificity - for each person there’s only one first album or one first kiss so each person is limited to answering one time. With a topic like “Pizza combination toppings” people who’ve already answered once can bump the list forward when it slows down by answering a second time.

New topic: breeds of dogs

1. Collie
2. Pug
3. Azawakh
4. Scottish Terrier
5. Beagle

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11101 "2012-06-06T22:26:38Z")

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Breeds of dogs

1. Collie
2. Pug
3. Azawakh
4. Scottish Terrier
5. Beagle
6. Akita

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