# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 565
**Author:** ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11282 "2012-06-19T12:34:23Z")
Next-up: Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11283 "2012-06-19T13:48:31Z")
Next-up: Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). 7. Magneto - Asteroid M ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11284 "2012-06-19T14:43:14Z")
Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). 7. Magneto - Asteroid M 8. The Penguin’s Lair (Batman) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11285 "2012-06-19T16:08:14Z")
Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). 7. Magneto - Asteroid M 8. The Penguin’s Lair (Batman) 9. Syndrome - Nomanisan Island Always loved that pun! ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11286 "2012-06-19T16:51:04Z")
Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). 7. Magneto - Asteroid M 8. The Penguin’s Lair (Batman) 9. Syndrome - Nomanisan Island 10. Huckleberry Finn (and Jim) - Jackson’s Island ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11287 "2012-06-19T18:20:37Z")
Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). 7. Magneto - Asteroid M 8. The Penguin’s Lair (Batman) 9. Syndrome - Nomanisan Island 10. Huckleberry Finn (and Jim) - Jackson’s Island 11. [The Three Investigators](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Investigators)- Motorhome buried in a junk yard. One of my childhood favorites. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11288 "2012-06-19T18:42:48Z")
Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). 7. Magneto - Asteroid M 8. The Penguin’s Lair (Batman) 9. Syndrome - Nomanisan Island 10. Huckleberry Finn (and Jim) - Jackson’s Island 11. [The Three Investigators](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Investigators)- Motorhome buried in a junk yard. 12. Doctor Who - the Tardis ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11289 "2012-06-19T19:22:59Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > A new category just for **Leaffan** > > Things that can’t be found with Google: I missed this one? Damn, I would have answered Stanley Cup wins by the Leafs since 1967! Sorry, **Leaffan** but if you put your sports allegiance in your username you can take a little ribbing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11290 "2012-06-19T19:24:29Z")
Characters who have secret lairs/what those lairs are 1. The Phantom of the Opera- Gothic apartment under a Parisian opera house 2. Batman - The Bat Cave 3. Professor Rathe- Young Sherlock Holmes- an underground pyramid in London 4. Blofeld - volcano, alpine fortress, tropical island, oil platform 5. Superman- Fortress of Solitude 6. Maxwell Smart - Control underground headquarters (accessed via phonebooth). 7. Magneto - Asteroid M 8. The Penguin’s Lair (Batman) 9. Syndrome - Nomanisan Island 10. Huckleberry Finn (and Jim) - Jackson’s Island 11. The Three Investigators - Motorhome buried in a junk yard. 12. Doctor Who - the Tardis 13. Zorro - underground cave a la Batman (at least in the Antonio Banderas films) Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11291 "2012-06-19T23:27:15Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11292 "2012-06-20T01:15:06Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > I missed this one? Damn, I would have answered Stanley Cup wins by the Leafs since 1967! > > Sorry, **Leaffan** but if you put your sports allegiance in your username you can take a little ribbing. 😃 Yep. Didn’t realize what I was doing at registration, not gonna change it now… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11293 "2012-06-20T01:48:17Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11294 "2012-06-20T05:50:59Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) [/QUOTE] 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11295 "2012-06-20T05:57:07Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) [/QUOTE] 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11296 "2012-06-20T14:27:55Z")
#4 was very funny 😛 but obviously off-topic. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11297 "2012-06-21T17:51:33Z")
I’m not _exactly_ sure what’s being asked for; could you elaborate on what you’re looking for, please? (I think I ask not just for my own benefit either; I’ve heard the term Uncanny Valley but to be honest I had to look it up again because it’s not commonly used.) ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11298 "2012-06-21T18:12:34Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I’m not _exactly_ sure what’s being asked for; could you elaborate on what you’re looking for, please? (I think I ask not just for my own benefit either; I’ve heard the term Uncanny Valley but to be honest I had to look it up again because it’s not commonly used.) “Uncanny Valley” refers to the way most/all CGI images that attempt to look like real humans fail in some creepy way that just generally makes people uncomfortable. The more realistic-looking the attempt, the more chance that it’ll fall into uncanny valley territory. I don’t think anyone has been able to recreate a completely realistic CGI human yet; there’s always something in the eyes, or the expression, or just a general “deadness” about them that hasn’t been possible to get around yet. For examples, check out the movies “The Polar Express” and “Final Fantasy,” both of which have been cited many times as uncanny valley candidates. This is why most good CGI movies (like the Pixar films) don’t attempt to go for complete realism, but instead prefer a more “cartoony” look for their humans. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11299 "2012-06-21T18:18:30Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) [/quote] 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) 6. [The Adventures of Tintin](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua_4ajpP58) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11300 "2012-06-21T22:55:13Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > “Uncanny Valley” refers to the way most/all CGI images that attempt to look like real humans fail in some creepy way that just generally makes people uncomfortable. The more realistic-looking the attempt, the more chance that it’ll fall into uncanny valley territory. I don’t think anyone has been able to recreate a completely realistic CGI human yet; there’s always something in the eyes, or the expression, or just a general “deadness” about them that hasn’t been possible to get around yet. > > For examples, check out the movies “The Polar Express” and “Final Fantasy,” both of which have been cited many times as uncanny valley candidates. > > This is why most good CGI movies (like the Pixar films) don’t attempt to go for complete realism, but instead prefer a more “cartoony” look for their humans. Thanks. So would “Worst example” be a movie trying but failing to look realistic? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11301 "2012-06-22T00:07:39Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) 6. [The Adventures of Tintin](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua_4ajpP58) 7. [Creepy Playstation ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpzhMMFk5U&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL84CA57BC6FCFEE58) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=564) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=566)