# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 566
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11302 "2012-06-22T01:37:38Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Thanks. So would “Worst example” be a movie trying but failing to look realistic? That’s for **John DiFool** to answer since it’s his topic, but that’s how I read it and what I based my contribution on. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11303 "2012-06-22T01:47:32Z")
Why would any of this “creep you out?” Seriously. What’s creepy? I don’t get it. As a kid I saw rudimentary robots in Disneyworld (Mission to Mars, American Presidents, Bears) and thought it was the coolest thing ever.) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11304 "2012-06-22T03:19:31Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Why would any of this “creep you out?” > > Seriously. What’s creepy? > > I don’t get it. > > As a kid I saw rudimentary robots in Disneyworld (Mission to Mars, American Presidents, Bears) and thought it was the coolest thing ever.) The uncanny valley is a real thing. (At least, it’s a widely discussed phenomena - I don’t know if it’s been objectively proven.) It’s a psychological effect when some object appears close enough to a human being for our brain to categorize it as human while still remaining recognizably different enough for our brain to warn us there is something “off” with this human being. Obviously the specific triggers and amount of the response to those triggers will vary from person to person. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11305 "2012-06-22T14:28:08Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > That’s for **John DiFool** to answer since it’s his topic, but that’s how I read it and what I based my contribution on. Confirmed. A candidate for the “best” effort would be one which fools you into thinking it is the real thing. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11306 "2012-06-23T05:20:15Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Confirmed. A candidate for the “best” effort would be one which fools you into thinking it is the real thing. Thanks. Sorry for the digression. Now to return: Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) [/quote] 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) 6. [The Adventures of Tintin](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua_4ajpP58) 7. Walt Disney’s [A Christmas Carol](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3lr3urgDU) (the one with Jim Carrey) There was a lot to like in this version, and it was actually closer to Dickens’ original than many versions, but while they went for great realism (expecially in 3D) in the rooftop flyovers of Victorian London they made the physiques and the motions of the humans non-real and the contrast was jarring. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11307 "2012-06-23T05:32:33Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) 6. [The Adventures of Tintin](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua_4ajpP58) 7. [Creepy Playstation ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpzhMMFk5U&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL84CA57BC6FCFEE58) 8. Walt Disney’s [A Christmas Carol](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3lr3urgDU) (the one with Jim Carrey) 9. [Shiri, the robot butt](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIJGjXoBAA) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11308 "2012-06-23T05:36:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Walt Disney’s [A Christmas Carol](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3lr3urgDU) (the one with Jim Carrey) Did the actual movie suck as much as the trailer made it look like it would? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11309 "2012-06-23T06:04:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Did the actual movie suck as much as the trailer made it look like it would? No, it didn’t. As mentioned, it included elements from the original rarely included (e.g. the line about the bakeries [not places where you go to buy cupcakes but where the Cratchits and 90% of other Londoners went to use the ovens because they didn’t have them in their homes] being closed on Sundays) ---
**Author:** ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11310 "2012-06-24T18:38:45Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn 2. Japanese Robot Girlfriend 3. Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies 4. The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. The Polar Express 6. The Adventures of Tintin 7. Creepy Playstation ad 8. Walt Disney’s A Christmas Carol (the one with Jim Carrey) 9. Shiri, the robot butt 10. Eno [http://adsoftheworld.com/files/eno.jpg](http://adsoftheworld.com/files/eno.jpg) Too realistic for me. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11311 "2012-06-25T05:36:28Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) 6. [The Adventures of Tintin](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua_4ajpP58) 7. [Creepy Playstation ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpzhMMFk5U&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL84CA57BC6FCFEE58) 8. Walt Disney’s [A Christmas Carol](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3lr3urgDU) (the one with Jim Carrey) 9. [Shiri, the robot butt](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIJGjXoBAA) 10. [Eno](http://adsoftheworld.com/files/eno.jpg) 11. [The Burger King](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF86Rb-uFNE&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11312 "2012-06-26T18:49:01Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) 6. [The Adventures of Tintin](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua_4ajpP58) 7. [Creepy Playstation ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpzhMMFk5U&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL84CA57BC6FCFEE58) 8. Walt Disney’s [A Christmas Carol](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3lr3urgDU) (the one with Jim Carrey) 9. [Shiri, the robot butt](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIJGjXoBAA) 10. [Eno](http://adsoftheworld.com/files/eno.jpg) 11. [The Burger King](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF86Rb-uFNE&feature=related) 12. [Max Headroom](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoqMSr1H1ek&feature=related) (dating myself a bit) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11313 "2012-06-26T20:50:25Z")
Worst examples of the Uncanny Valley that you’ve seen (TV or film, incl. commercials)-Youtube links appreciated: 1. [A CGI Orville Reddenbacher shilling for his brand of popcorn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8) 2. [Japanese Robot Girlfriend](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4DRuw7uMs) 3. [Hot young Japanese scientist and her buddies](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY) 4. [The creepily unlifelike Ozzie Osbourne mannequin at Mme. Tussaud’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEwoeNSJ-g)–BRIEF BAD LANGUAGE– 5. [The Polar Express](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtv2WVz4Cj8) 6. [The Adventures of Tintin](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua_4ajpP58) 7. [Creepy Playstation ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpzhMMFk5U&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL84CA57BC6FCFEE58) 8. Walt Disney’s [A Christmas Carol](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3lr3urgDU) (the one with Jim Carrey) 9. [Shiri, the robot butt](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIJGjXoBAA) 10. [Eno](http://adsoftheworld.com/files/eno.jpg) 11. [The Burger King](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF86Rb-uFNE&feature=related) 12. [Max Headroom](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoqMSr1H1ek&feature=related) (dating myself a bit) 13. [Emily](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiX5d3rC6o) - The Uncanny Valley averted. This CGI effect looks convincing to me. New category: Classic silent comedies 1. _[The General](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b24wqhy0Zo&feature=mv_sr)_ ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11314 "2012-06-27T00:46:12Z")
New category: Classic silent comedies 1. [The General](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b24wqhy0Zo&feature=mv_sr) 2. [Steamboat Bill, Jr.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjl2Fj-_Hg0) (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) ---
**Author:** ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11315 "2012-06-27T00:53:32Z")
Classic silent comedies 1. The General 2. Steamboat Bill, Jr. (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) 3. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11316 "2012-06-27T01:32:56Z")
New category: Classic silent comedies 1. [The General](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b24wqhy0Zo&feature=mv_sr) 2. [Steamboat Bill, Jr.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjl2Fj-_Hg0) (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) 3. [City Lights](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5uS7ZHCD2Q) (Charlie Chaplin) 4. [Safety Last](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG074hvA5qU) Amazing movie because they didn’t fake anything. That really was the actors, including Lloyd, climbing up the sides of real buildings. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11317 "2012-06-27T04:04:06Z")
New category: Classic silent comedies 1. [The General](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b24wqhy0Zo&feature=mv_sr) 2. [Steamboat Bill, Jr.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjl2Fj-_Hg0) (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) 3. [City Lights](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5uS7ZHCD2Q) (Charlie Chaplin) 4. [Safety Last](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG074hvA5qU) 5. [Modern Times](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHdmaFJ6W6M) Filmed in 1936 and considered the last great silent movie. Some purists don’t consider it silent since there is some sound, but The Little Tramp, whose last film appearance this was, never speaks. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11318 "2012-06-27T20:18:46Z")
New category: Classic silent comedies 1. [The General](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b24wqhy0Zo&feature=mv_sr) 2. [Steamboat Bill, Jr.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjl2Fj-_Hg0) (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) 3. [City Lights](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5uS7ZHCD2Q) (Charlie Chaplin) 4. [Safety Last](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG074hvA5qU) 5. [Modern Times](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHdmaFJ6W6M) 6. [Silent Movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075222/) ---
**Author:** ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11319 "2012-06-27T23:03:44Z")
New category: Classic silent comedies 1. The General 2. Steamboat Bill, Jr. (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) 3. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin) 4. Safety Last 5. Modern Times 6. Silent Movie 7. The Gold Rush ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/11320 "2012-06-27T23:36:00Z")
New category: Classic silent comedies 1. The General 2. Steamboat Bill, Jr. (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) 3. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin) 4. Safety Last 5. Modern Times 6. Silent Movie 7. The Gold Rush 8. The Freshman (Harold Lloyd) ---
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Classic silent comedies 1. The General 2. Steamboat Bill, Jr. (The inspiration for Mickey Mouse in “Steamboat Willie.”) 3. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin) 4. Safety Last 5. Modern Times 6. Silent Movie 7. The Gold Rush 8. The Freshman (Harold Lloyd) 9. Keystone Kops [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=565) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=567)