# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 622
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Hmm, thought of two good ones. Let’s go with… Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” ---
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Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ ---
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Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12425 "2012-10-08T03:53:23Z")
Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ 5. Robin Williams, _One Hour Photo_ ---
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Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ 5. Robin Williams, _One Hour Photo_ 6. Henry Fonda, **Once Upon a Time in the West** ---
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Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ 5. Robin Williams, _One Hour Photo_ 6. Henry Fonda, **Once Upon a Time in the West** 7. Gene Hackman, _Unforgiven_ ---
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Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ 5. Robin Williams, _One Hour Photo_ 6. Henry Fonda, _Once Upon a Time in the West_ 7. Gene Hackman, _Unforgiven_ 8. Kevin Costner, _Mr. Brooks_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12429 "2012-10-08T08:35:52Z")
Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ 5. Robin Williams, _One Hour Photo_ 6. Henry Fonda, _Once Upon a Time in the West_ 7. Gene Hackman, _Unforgiven_ 8. Kevin Costner, _Mr. Brooks_ 9. Owen Wilson, _The Minus Man_ ---
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Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ 5. Robin Williams, _One Hour Photo_ 6. Henry Fonda, _Once Upon a Time in the West_ 7. Gene Hackman, _Unforgiven_ 8. Kevin Costner, _Mr. Brooks_ 9. Owen Wilson, _The Minus Man_ 10. Ed Harris, _A Beautiful Mind_ ---
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Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, _The Road to Perdition_ 4. Ronald Reagan, _The Killers_ 5. Robin Williams, _One Hour Photo_ 6. Henry Fonda, _Once Upon a Time in the West_ 7. Gene Hackman, _Unforgiven_ 8. Kevin Costner, _Mr. Brooks_ 9. Owen Wilson, _The Minus Man_ 10. Ed Harris, _A Beautiful Mind_ 11. Morgan Freeman, _Wanted_ Ed Harris doesn’t normally play bad guys? (I’m actually asking. _A Beautiful Mind_ and _A History of Violence_ are the first two films I think of when I think of him.) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12432 "2012-10-08T10:55:15Z")
Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, The Road to Perdition 4. Ronald Reagan, The Killers 5. Robin Williams, One Hour Photo 6. Henry Fonda, Once Upon a Time in the West 7. Gene Hackman, Unforgiven 8. Kevin Costner, Mr. Brooks 9. Owen Wilson, The Minus Man 10. Ed Harris, A Beautiful Mind 11. Morgan Freeman, Wanted 12. Albert Brooks, _ **Drive** _ ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12433 "2012-10-08T12:09:49Z")
Actors and actresses who have, against type, played villains 1. Jimmy Stewart, “Rose Marie” 2. Gert Fröbe, “Goldfinger” 3. Tom Hanks, “Michael Sullivan”, The Road to Perdition 4. Ronald Reagan, The Killers 5. Robin Williams, One Hour Photo 6. Henry Fonda, Once Upon a Time in the West 7. Gene Hackman, Unforgiven 8. Kevin Costner, Mr. Brooks 9. Owen Wilson, The Minus Man 10. Ed Harris, A Beautiful Mind 11. Morgan Freeman, Wanted 12. Albert Brooks, _ **Drive** _ 13. Harrison Ford, _ **What Lies Beneath** _ New Category: Defunct European Royal Dynasties 1. Romanovs (Russia) ---
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Defunct European Royal Dynasties 1. Romanovs (Russia) 2. Vasa (Sweden, 1521–1654) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12435 "2012-10-08T14:31:16Z")
Defunct European Royal Dynasties 1. Romanovs (Russia) 2. Vasa (Sweden, 1521–1654) 3. Hohenzollern (Prussia/Germany) ---
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Defunct European Royal Dynasties 1. Romanovs (Russia) 2. Vasa (Sweden, 1521–1654) 3. Hohenzollern (Prussia/Germany) 4. Savoy (Italy) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12437 "2012-10-08T16:22:20Z")
Defunct European Royal Dynasties 1. Romanovs (Russia) 2. Vasa (Sweden, 1521–1654) 3. Hohenzollern (Prussia/Germany) 4. Savoy (Italy) 5. Hapsburg (Austria) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12438 "2012-10-08T16:29:52Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > 1. Hapsburg (Austria) Nitpick: it’s Habsburg. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12439 "2012-10-08T16:31:51Z")
Defunct European Royal Dynasties 1. Romanovs (Russia) 2. Vasa (Sweden, 1521–1654) 3. Hohenzollern (Prussia/Germany) 4. Savoy (Italy) 5. Habsburg (Austria) 6. Karadordevic (Yugoslavia/Serbia) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12440 "2012-10-08T16:51:28Z")
Defunct European Royal Dynasties 1. Romanovs (Russia) 2. Vasa (Sweden, 1521–1654) 3. Hohenzollern (Prussia/Germany) 4. Savoy (Italy) 5. Habsburg (Austria) 6. Karadordevic (Yugoslavia/Serbia) [/QUOTE] 7. Tudor (England) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12441 "2012-10-08T16:52:54Z")
Habsburg is correct, but Hapsburg isn’t wrong > **[House of Habsburg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Habsburg)** > > Cognatic: > The House of Habsburg (/ˈhæpsbɜːrɡ/, German: Haus Habsburg, pronounced \[haʊ̯s ˈhaːpsˌbʊʁk\] (listen)), also known as the House of Austria,\[note 7\] is one of the most prominent and important dynasties in European history. > The house takes its name from Habsburg Castle, a fortress built in the 1020s in present-day Switzerland by Radbot of Klettgau, who named his fortress Habsburg. His grandson Otto II was the first to take the fortress name as his own, adding "Count of Habsburg" to his ti... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=621) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=623)