# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 630

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12582 "2012-10-11T15:46:00Z")

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People who have had too much plastic surgery

1. Joan Rivers
2. Michael Jackson
3. Phyllis Diller (RIP)
4. Meg Ryan
5. Carrot Top
6. Shannon Tweed-Simmons
7. Tori Spelling
8. Melanie Griffith
9. Jocelyn Wildenstein
10. Mickey Rourke

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12583 "2012-10-11T15:48:38Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> 1. Jocelyn Wildenstein
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> Warning: Borderline-scary image of _'way_ too much plastic surgery: [http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/637863/blog\_images/jocelyn-wildenstein.jpg](http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/637863/blog_images/jocelyn-wildenstein.jpg)

For what it’s worth, she’s finally figured this out. She’s now having surgery to reverse her earlier surgeries and restore her back to a more conventional appearance. A recent [photo](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RrcYXMM2xiQ/0.jpg).

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12584 "2012-10-11T17:02:22Z")

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People who have had too much plastic surgery

1. Joan Rivers
2. Michael Jackson
3. Phyllis Diller (RIP)
4. Meg Ryan
5. Carrot Top
6. Shannon Tweed-Simmons
7. Tori Spelling
8. Melanie Griffith
9. Jocelyn Wildenstein
10. Mickey Rourke
11. Kenny Rogers

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12585 "2012-10-11T17:35:14Z")

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People who have had too much plastic surgery

1. Joan Rivers
2. Michael Jackson
3. Phyllis Diller (RIP)
4. Meg Ryan
5. Carrot Top
6. Shannon Tweed-Simmons
7. Tori Spelling
8. Melanie Griffith
9. Jocelyn Wildenstein
10. Mickey Rourke
11. Kenny Rogers
12. [Sarah Burge](http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2012/05/24/anderson-cooper-calls-barbie-mom-dreadful-boots-her-off-show/)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12586 "2012-10-11T17:40:07Z")

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People who have had too much plastic surgery

1. Joan Rivers
2. Michael Jackson
3. Phyllis Diller (RIP)
4. Meg Ryan
5. Carrot Top
6. Shannon Tweed-Simmons
7. Tori Spelling
8. Melanie Griffith
9. Jocelyn Wildenstein
10. Mickey Rourke
11. Kenny Rogers
12. [Sarah Burge](http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2012/05/24/anderson-cooper-calls-barbie-mom-dreadful-boots-her-off-show/)
13. Rose McGowan

New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers

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**Author:** ![Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marconi_N.Cheese)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12587 "2012-10-11T18:05:17Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12588 "2012-10-11T18:10:51Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12589 "2012-10-11T18:19:54Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12590 "2012-10-11T18:33:08Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12591 "2012-10-11T18:34:56Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12592 "2012-10-11T18:46:47Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Ronnie Van Zant

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12593 "2012-10-11T18:52:26Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Ronnie Van Zant
8. Tony Lema (golfer)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12594 "2012-10-11T18:55:13Z")

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New category: celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Ronnie Van Zant
8. Tony Lema (golfer)
9. Glenn Miller, big band leader

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12595 "2012-10-11T18:59:59Z")

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Celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Ronnie Van Zant
8. Tony Lema (golfer)
9. Glenn Miller, big band leader
10. Cal Rodgers

First to fly across America, “crash by crash.” It’d make a great movie. He died, in another crash, less than four months later: [Calbraith Perry Rodgers - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Rodgers)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12596 "2012-10-11T19:22:56Z")

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Celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Ronnie Van Zant
8. Tony Lema (golfer)
9. Glenn Miller, big band leader
10. Cal Rodgers
11. Rocky Marciano, heavyweight champ

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12597 "2012-10-11T19:28:41Z")

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Celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Ronnie Van Zant
8. Tony Lema (golfer)
9. Glenn Miller, big band leader
10. Cal Rodgers
11. Rocky Marciano, heavyweight champ
12. Isoroku Yamamoto, Japanese admiral

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12598 "2012-10-11T19:29:20Z")

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Celebs who died in plane crashes

1. Will Rogers
2. John F. Kennedy Jr.
3. Buddy Holly
4. The Big Bopper
5. Carole Lombard
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Ronnie Van Zant
8. Tony Lema (golfer)
9. Glenn Miller, big band leader
10. Cal Rodgers
11. Rocky Marciano, heavyweight champ
12. Isoroku Yamamoto, Japanese admiral
13. Mel Carnahan

(former Missouri Governor and was elected to US Senate after dying in private plane crash a couple of weeks before the 2000 election which would have been more controversial had their not been a bigger issue in Florida)  
Ninjaed, which means I got to come up with a topic (quickly)  
Things you love (or Hate) about October:

1. College Football

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12599 "2012-10-11T19:36:00Z")

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Things you love (or Hate) about October:

1. College Football
2. NHL Lockout! (That’s a hate BTW)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12600 "2012-10-11T19:43:19Z")

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Things you love (or hate) about October:

1. College Football (love)
2. NHL Lockout! (That’s a hate BTW)
3. Cider (love)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12601 "2012-10-11T19:45:21Z")

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Things you love (or hate) about October:

1. College Football (love)
2. NHL Lockout! (That’s a hate BTW)
3. Cider (love)
4. Raking Leaves (Hate)

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