# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12882 "2012-10-26T10:58:56Z")

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Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer

1. Humphrey Bogart
2. Ayn Rand
3. Yul Brynner
4. John Wayne
5. George Harrison
6. Nat King Cole
7. Steve McQueen
8. Vincent Price
9. Duke Ellington  
I was all set to write Humphrey Bogart… but while he was a heavy smoker, he died of throat cancer, not lung cancer.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12883 "2012-10-26T11:22:51Z")

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Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer

1. Humphrey Bogart
2. Ayn Rand
3. Yul Brynner
4. George Harrison
5. Nat King Cole
6. Steve McQueen
7. Vincent Price
8. Duke Ellington

_ **John Wayne** _ _removed. He died of stomach cancer, not lung cancer._

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12884 "2012-10-26T11:25:30Z")

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Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer

1. Humphrey Bogart
2. Ayn Rand
3. Yul Brynner
4. George Harrison
5. Nat King Cole
6. Steve McQueen
7. Vincent Price
8. Duke Ellington
9. Dean Martin

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12885 "2012-10-26T11:50:32Z")

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Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer:

1. George Harrison
2. Nat King Cole
3. Steve McQueen
4. Vincent Price
5. Duke Ellington
6. Walt Disney
7. Dean Martin

While a heavy smoker, Bogart had esophagial cancer.  
Ayn Rand died of heart failure 8 years after having surgery for lung cancer.  
John Wayne had lung cancer in 1964 but died of stomach cancer 15 years later in 1979.  
Steve McQueen died of mesothelioma which is caused by asbestos exposure, not smoking.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12886 "2012-10-26T14:12:17Z")

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Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer:

1. George Harrison
2. Nat King Cole
3. Steve McQueen
4. Vincent Price
5. Duke Ellington
6. Walt Disney
7. Dean Martin
8. Kathryn Joosten

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12887 "2012-10-26T14:48:32Z")

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Where’d my Yul Brynner go???

1. George Harrison
2. Nat King Cole
3. Steve McQueen
4. Vincent Price
5. Duke Ellington
6. Walt Disney
7. Dean Martin
8. Kathryn Joosten
9. Yul Brynner (his posthumous anti-smoking commercial was unforgettable)
10. Joe Dimaggio (remember when star athletes smoked?)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12888 "2012-10-26T14:55:30Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Where’d my Yul Brynner go???

:smack:  
Sorry, lost it in editing.

Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer:

1. George Harrison
2. Nat King Cole
3. Steve McQueen
4. Vincent Price
5. Duke Ellington
6. Walt Disney
7. Dean Martin
8. Kathryn Joosten
9. Yul Brynner (his posthumous anti-smoking commercial was unforgettable)
10. Joe Dimaggio (remember when star athletes smoked?)  
11.Paul Newman

Wow! Newman, McQueen, Dimaggio, Harrison, Disney…those were some of my favorite people!

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12889 "2012-10-26T19:55:25Z")

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Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer:

1. George Harrison
2. Nat King Cole
3. Steve McQueen
4. Vincent Price
5. Duke Ellington
6. Walt Disney
7. Dean Martin
8. Kathryn Joosten
9. Yul Brynner (his posthumous anti-smoking commercial was unforgettable)
10. Joe DiMaggio (remember when star athletes smoked?)
11. Paul Newman
12. Peter Jennings

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12890 "2012-10-26T21:47:37Z")

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Celebrities who smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer:

1. George Harrison
2. Nat King Cole
3. Steve McQueen
4. Vincent Price
5. Duke Ellington
6. Walt Disney
7. Dean Martin
8. Kathryn Joosten
9. Yul Brynner (his posthumous anti-smoking commercial was unforgettable)
10. Joe DiMaggio (remember when star athletes smoked?)
11. Paul Newman
12. Peter Jennings
13. Edward R. Murrow

New list: members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. Ty Cobb .367

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12891 "2012-10-26T22:15:42Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> 1. Ty Cobb .367

Unusual trivia note: Tyrus Cobb was named after the city of Tyre. Cobb’s father had been reading a history of Alexander the Great and admired the way that Tyre had held out against Alexander’s army for seven months.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12892 "2012-10-26T22:18:04Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. Ty Cobb .367
2. Babe Ruth .342

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12893 "2012-10-27T01:28:39Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. Ty Cobb .367
2. Babe Ruth .342
3. Tris Speaker .345

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12894 "2012-10-27T02:29:09Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. Ty Cobb .367
2. Babe Ruth .342
3. Tris Speaker .345
4. Paul Molitor, .306 (REALLY high average Hall of Famers are EASY- try finding less obvious guys like Molitor!)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12895 "2012-10-27T04:32:14Z")

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_(reformatted a little; I hope you guys don’t mind)_

Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. .357 - Ty Cobb
2. .342 - Babe Ruth
3. .345 - Tris Speaker
4. .306 - Paul Molitor (REALLY high average Hall of Famers are EASY- try finding less obvious guys like Molitor!)
5. .302 - Willie Mays

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12896 "2012-10-27T04:49:45Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. .357 - Ty Cobb
2. .342 - Babe Ruth
3. .345 - Tris Speaker
4. .306 - Paul Molitor
5. .302 - Willie Mays
6. .312 - Joe Sewell

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12897 "2012-10-27T04:52:12Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. .357 - Ty Cobb
2. .342 - Babe Ruth
3. .345 - Tris Speaker
4. .306 - Paul Molitor
5. .302 - Willie Mays
6. .312 - Joe Sewell
7. .344 - Ted Williams

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12898 "2012-10-27T05:10:43Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. .357 - Ty Cobb
2. .342 - Babe Ruth
3. .345 - Tris Speaker
4. .306 - Paul Molitor
5. .302 - Willie Mays
6. .312 - Joe Sewell
7. .344 - Ted Williams
8. .306 - George Kell

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12899 "2012-10-27T05:25:33Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. .357 - Ty Cobb
2. .342 - Babe Ruth
3. .345 - Tris Speaker
4. .306 - Paul Molitor
5. .302 - Willie Mays
6. .312 - Joe Sewell
7. .344 - Ted Williams
8. .306 - George Kell
9. .325 - Joltin’ Joe DiMaggio

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12900 "2012-10-27T06:38:39Z")

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Members of the Baseball Hall of Fame with career batting averages over .300 (include player’s average).

1. .367 - Ty Cobb
2. .342 - Babe Ruth
3. .345 - Tris Speaker
4. .306 - Paul Molitor
5. .302 - Willie Mays
6. .312 - Joe Sewell
7. .344 - Ted Williams
8. .306 - George Kell
9. .325 - Joltin’ Joe DiMaggio
10. .358 - Rogers Hornsby

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/12901 "2012-10-27T06:40:42Z")

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> [@echo7tango](#):
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> _(reformatted a little; I hope you guys don’t mind)_

We don’t mind. But Ty Cobb might beat you up for lowering his stats even though he’s been dead for fifty years.

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