# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1301 "2010-10-08T15:32:59Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. The Buccaneer (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. Krakatoa, East of Java (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. Braveheart - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. A Beautiful Mind (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. The Alamo (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”. Also, to quote Wikipedia: > [@](#): > > Historians J. Frank Dobie and Lon Tinkle demanded their names be removed as historical advisors. 6 U-571 - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1302 "2010-10-08T20:42:20Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. “The Buccaneer” (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. “Krakatoa, East of Java” (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. “Braveheart” - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. “A Beautiful Mind” (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, [but actually] fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. “The Alamo” (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”… 6. “U-571” - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. 7. “Birth of a Nation” - Highly biased and racist view of Reconstruction and the Klan ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1303 "2010-10-09T02:42:31Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. “The Buccaneer” (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. “Krakatoa, East of Java” (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. “Braveheart” - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. “A Beautiful Mind” (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, [but actually] fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. “The Alamo” (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”… 6. “U-571” - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. 7. “Birth of a Nation” - Highly biased and racist view of Reconstruction and the Klan 8. “Hurricane” - Pretty much the whole story. Rubin Carter would have been convicted in any fair trial based on the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1304 "2010-10-09T14:34:18Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. “The Buccaneer” (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. “Krakatoa, East of Java” (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. “Braveheart” - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. “A Beautiful Mind” (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, [but actually] fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. “The Alamo” (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”… 6. “U-571” - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. 7. “Birth of a Nation” - Highly biased and racist view of Reconstruction and the Klan 8. “Hurricane” - Pretty much the whole story. Rubin Carter would have been convicted in any fair trial based on the evidence. 9. “Gladiator” - Lots of boo-boos; Aurelius died of the plague and Commodus was well-loved and ruled for 13 years, dying in a bathtub after being killed by a wrestler. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1305 "2010-10-10T00:06:50Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. “The Buccaneer” (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. “Krakatoa, East of Java” (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. “Braveheart” - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. “A Beautiful Mind” (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, [but actually] fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. “The Alamo” (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”… 6. “U-571” - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. 7. “Birth of a Nation” - Highly biased and racist view of Reconstruction and the Klan 8. “Hurricane” - Pretty much the whole story. Rubin Carter would have been convicted in any fair trial based on the evidence. 9. “Gladiator” - Lots of boo-boos; Aurelius died of the plague and Commodus was well-loved and ruled for 13 years, dying in a bathtub after being killed by a wrestler. 10. “The Patriot” - Added various atrocities that never happened and subtracted slavery in order to make the good guys and bad guys less ambiguous. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1306 "2010-10-10T02:53:31Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. “The Buccaneer” (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. “Krakatoa, East of Java” (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. “Braveheart” - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. “A Beautiful Mind” (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, [but actually] fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. “The Alamo” (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”… 6. “U-571” - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. 7. “Birth of a Nation” - Highly biased and racist view of Reconstruction and the Klan 8. “Hurricane” - Pretty much the whole story. Rubin Carter would have been convicted in any fair trial based on the evidence. 9. “Gladiator” - Lots of boo-boos; Aurelius died of the plague and Commodus was well-loved and ruled for 13 years, dying in a bathtub after being killed by a wrestler. 10. “The Patriot” - Added various atrocities that never happened and subtracted slavery in order to make the good guys and bad guys less ambiguous. 11. “Gods and Generals” - Showed Robert E. Lee (Robert Duvall) as much older at the outset of the Civil War than he was; had two slaves say they were basically contented with their lifestyles; had Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson proposing the freeing and arming of slaves to fight for the Confederacy (which he never advocated). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1307 "2010-10-10T06:19:36Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. “The Buccaneer” (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. “Krakatoa, East of Java” (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. “Braveheart” - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. “A Beautiful Mind” (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, [but actually] fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. “The Alamo” (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”… 6. “U-571” - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. 7. “Birth of a Nation” - Highly biased and racist view of Reconstruction and the Klan 8. “Hurricane” - Pretty much the whole story. Rubin Carter would have been convicted in any fair trial based on the evidence. 9. “Gladiator” - Lots of boo-boos; Aurelius died of the plague and Commodus was well-loved and ruled for 13 years, dying in a bathtub after being killed by a wrestler. 10. “The Patriot” - Added various atrocities that never happened and subtracted slavery in order to make the good guys and bad guys less ambiguous. 11. “Gods and Generals” - Showed Robert E. Lee (Robert Duvall) as much older at the outset of the Civil War than he was; had two slaves say they were basically contented with their lifestyles; had Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson proposing the freeing and arming of slaves to fight for the Confederacy (which he never advocated). 12. “Amadeus” - Contemporary accounts show that Salieri and Mozart got along pretty well. Salieri was a well-respected musician who had no cause to feel slighted and he admired Mozart’s abilities. And Mozart’s death was due to natural causes not foul play. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1308 "2010-10-10T10:54:29Z")
Historical movies that really mucked up what really happened… 1. “The Buccaneer” (No historical evidence places Lafitte at the battle defending New Orleans against the British and while he did have an affair with a Claybourne lady, but it was the Governor’s wife, not his daughter.) 2. “Krakatoa, East of Java” (if by East they meant West, then it’s accurate). 3. “Braveheart” - Had some historical details but most of the story is from author Randall Wallace’s imagination. 4. “A Beautiful Mind” (Nash never gave a speech after get a Nobel Prize, [but actually] fathered a son out of wedlock, was arrested for “moral charges” and his hallucinations were auditory, not visual. There are more problems as well…) 5. “The Alamo” (Historian Timothy Todish claims that “there is not a single scene in (the 1960 John Wayne film) which corresponds to an historically verifiable incident”… 6. “U-571” - American characters in a story based on something that was actually done by British sailors. 7. “Birth of a Nation” - Highly biased and racist view of Reconstruction and the Klan 8. “Hurricane” - Pretty much the whole story. Rubin Carter would have been convicted in any fair trial based on the evidence. 9. “Gladiator” - Lots of boo-boos; Aurelius died of the plague and Commodus was well-loved and ruled for 13 years, dying in a bathtub after being killed by a wrestler. 10. “The Patriot” - Added various atrocities that never happened and subtracted slavery in order to make the good guys and bad guys less ambiguous. 11. “Gods and Generals” - Showed Robert E. Lee (Robert Duvall) as much older at the outset of the Civil War than he was; had two slaves say they were basically contented with their lifestyles; had Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson proposing the freeing and arming of slaves to fight for the Confederacy (which he never advocated). 12. “Amadeus” - Contemporary accounts show that Salieri and Mozart got along pretty well. Salieri was a well-respected musician who had no cause to feel slighted and he admired Mozart’s abilities. And Mozart’s death was due to natural causes not foul play. 13. “10,000 B.C” - Wooly mammoths building Egyptian pyramids. New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1309 "2010-10-10T12:39:23Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1310 "2010-10-10T15:04:46Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1311 "2010-10-10T15:19:41Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1312 "2010-10-10T15:56:47Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive 5. the National Road (the first federal interstate highway) ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1313 "2010-10-10T16:05:09Z")
1.Sunset Blvd. 2. Rt 66 3.Madison Ave 4.Rodeo Dr. 5. the National Raod 6.Pacific Coast Highway ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1314 "2010-10-10T16:24:38Z")
1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Ave 4. Rodeo Drive 5. The National Road 6. Pacific Coast Highway 7. Lombard Street ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1315 "2010-10-10T17:06:53Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive 5. the National Road (the first federal interstate highway) 6. Pacific Coast Highway 7. Lombard Street 8. Broadway ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1316 "2010-10-10T17:08:29Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive 5. the National Road (the first federal interstate highway) 6. Pacific Coast Highway 7. Lombard Street 8. Broadway 9. 42nd Street ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1317 "2010-10-10T17:21:51Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive 5. the National Road (the first federal interstate highway) 6. Pacific Coast Highway 7. Lombard Street 8. Broadway 9. 42nd Street 10. Downing Street (heh) ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1318 "2010-10-10T18:15:55Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive 5. the National Road (the first federal interstate highway) 6. Pacific Coast Highway 7. Lombard Street 8. Broadway 9. 42nd Street 10. Downing Street (heh) 11. Baker Street (specifically, 221B) ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1319 "2010-10-10T18:45:04Z")
New list - famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive 5. the National Road (the first federal interstate highway) 6. Pacific Coast Highway 7. Lombard Street 8. Broadway 9. 42nd Street 10. Downing Street (heh) 11. Baker Street (specifically, 221B) 12. Brick, Yellow ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1320 "2010-10-10T18:47:16Z")
Famous roads 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. Route 66 3. Madison Avenue 4. Rodeo Drive 5. the National Road (the first federal interstate highway) 6. Pacific Coast Highway 7. Lombard Street 8. Broadway 9. 42nd Street 10. Downing Street (heh) 11. Baker Street (specifically, 221B) 12. Brick, Yellow 13. Highway 61 New category: Canadian cities 1. Toronto [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=67)