# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13442 "2012-11-28T13:22:21Z")

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US Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13443 "2012-11-28T14:11:44Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13444 "2012-11-28T14:37:59Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13445 "2012-11-28T14:49:13Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)
6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13446 "2012-11-28T14:59:08Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)
6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
7. William Howard Taft (Woodrow Wilson)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13447 "2012-11-28T15:07:10Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)
6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
7. William Howard Taft (Woodrow Wilson)
8. James Knox Polk, who probably WOULD have been re-elected, but chose not to run again (Zachary Taylor)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13448 "2012-11-28T15:10:25Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)
6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
7. William Howard Taft (Woodrow Wilson)
8. James Knox Polk, who probably WOULD have been re-elected, but chose not to run again (Zachary Taylor)
9. Chester Arthur (Grover Cleveland)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13449 "2012-11-28T15:12:12Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)
6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
7. William Howard Taft (Woodrow Wilson)
8. James Knox Polk, who probably WOULD have been re-elected, but chose not to run again (Zachary Taylor)
9. Chester Arthur (Grover Cleveland)
10. Franklin Pierce (James Buchanan)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13450 "2012-11-28T15:42:12Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)
6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
7. William Howard Taft (Woodrow Wilson)
8. James Knox Polk, who probably WOULD have been re-elected, but chose not to run again (Zachary Taylor)
9. Chester Arthur (Grover Cleveland)
10. Franklin Pierce (James Buchanan)
11. Andrew Johnson (Ulysses S. Grant)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13451 "2012-11-28T16:02:01Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)
2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)
3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)
4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)
5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)
6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
7. William Howard Taft (Woodrow Wilson)
8. James Knox Polk, who probably WOULD have been re-elected, but chose not to run again (Zachary Taylor)
9. Chester Arthur (Grover Cleveland)
10. Franklin Pierce (James Buchanan)
11. Andrew Johnson (Ulysses S. Grant)
12. Martin Van Buren (William Harrison)

Got hit by an economic crisis five weeks into his term of office that ended up lasting for the rest of his administration. Not undeserved bad luck because the crisis was largely caused by Jackson’s economic policies, which Van Buren had supported.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13452 "2012-11-28T16:05:05Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> 1. James Knox Polk, who probably WOULD have been re-elected, but chose not to run again (Zachary Taylor)

It wasn’t going to happen. Polk knew he was ill and died only three months after leaving office.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13453 "2012-11-28T16:14:33Z")

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U.S. Presidents Who Were Never Reelected (and, Succeeding President)

1. Jimmy Carter (Ronald Reagan)

2. John Adams (Thomas Jefferson)

3. Benjamin Harrison (Grover Cleveland)

4. John Quincy Adams (Andrew Jackson)

5. George H.W. Bush (Bill Clinton)

6. Herbert Hoover (Franklin D. Roosevelt)

7. William Howard Taft (Woodrow Wilson)

8. James Knox Polk, who probably WOULD have been re-elected, but chose not to run again (Zachary Taylor)

9. Chester Arthur (Grover Cleveland)

10. Franklin Pierce (James Buchanan)

11. Andrew Johnson (Ulysses S. Grant)

12. Martin Van Buren (William Harrison)

13. James Buchanan (Abraham Lincoln)  
New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

14. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13454 "2012-11-28T16:39:08Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13455 "2012-11-28T16:42:16Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. The Monkees

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13456 "2012-11-28T16:43:16Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. The Monkees
4. Garbage

Lead singer Shirley Manson is actually Scottish not English but I figure that’s close enough if we’re going to get thirteen examples.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13457 "2012-11-28T16:46:00Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. The Monkees
4. Garbage
5. King Crimson (Eighties/Nineties edition had Englishmen Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford, plus Americans Tony Levin and Adrian Belew)

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13458 "2012-11-28T19:18:32Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. The Monkees
4. Garbage
5. King Crimson (Eighties/Nineties edition had Englishmen Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford, plus Americans Tony Levin and Adrian Belew)
6. Wings

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13459 "2012-11-28T19:21:45Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. The Monkees
4. Garbage
5. King Crimson (Eighties/Nineties edition had Englishmen Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford, plus Americans Tony Levin and Adrian Belew)
6. Wings
7. The Travelling Wilburys - Americans - Dylan, Petty, Orbison, and Keltner vs. Brits - Harrison and Lynne

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13460 "2012-11-28T19:28:12Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. The Monkees
4. Garbage
5. King Crimson (Eighties/Nineties edition had Englishmen Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford, plus Americans Tony Levin and Adrian Belew)
6. Wings
7. The Travelling Wilburys - Americans - Dylan, Petty, Orbison, and Keltner vs. Brits - Harrison and Lynne
8. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - With the additional bonus of having Canadian member. 🙂

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/13461 "2012-11-28T19:46:49Z")

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New topic: Pop/rock Bands That Featured Both American And English Members

1. Foreigner (American vocalist Lou Gramm, English guitarist Mick Jones)
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. The Monkees
4. Garbage
5. King Crimson (Eighties/Nineties edition had Englishmen Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford, plus Americans Tony Levin and Adrian Belew)
6. Wings
7. The Travelling Wilburys - Americans - Dylan, Petty, Orbison, and Keltner vs. Brits - Harrison and Lynne
8. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - With the additional bonus of having Canadian member. 🙂
9. The Police (Stewart Copeland is American, while Sting and Andy Summers are English)

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