# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173
**Category:** Thread Games
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Blkshp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blkshp/32/7135_2.png) [@Blkshp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blkshp)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16022 "2013-04-26T04:35:56Z")

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Drivers Who Never (or, Haven’t) Won the Indy 500

1. Marco Andretti
2. Danica Patrick
3. Janet Guthrie
4. Me
5. Tony Stewart
6. Barney Oldfield
7. Michael Andretti
8. Speedracer
9. Shirley “Cha Cha” Muldowney

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### Author: ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16023 "2013-04-26T04:45:44Z")

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Drivers Who Never (or, Haven’t) Won the Indy 500

1. Marco Andretti
2. Danica Patrick
3. Janet Guthrie
4. Me
5. Tony Stewart
6. Barney Oldfield
7. Michael Andretti
8. Speedracer
9. Shirley “Cha Cha” Muldowney
10. John Andretti

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16024 "2013-04-26T11:56:24Z")

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Drivers Who Never (or, Haven’t) Won the Indy 500

1. Marco Andretti
2. Danica Patrick
3. Janet Guthrie
4. Me
5. Tony Stewart
6. Barney Oldfield
7. Michael Andretti
8. Speedracer
9. Shirley “Cha Cha” Muldowney
10. John Andretti
11. Bill Puterbaugh

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### Author: ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16025 "2013-04-26T14:11:05Z")

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Drivers Who Never (or, Haven’t) Won the Indy 500

1. Marco Andretti
2. Danica Patrick
3. Janet Guthrie
4. Me
5. Tony Stewart
6. Barney Oldfield
7. Michael Andretti
8. Speedracer
9. Shirley “Cha Cha” Muldowney
10. John Andretti
11. Bill Puterbaugh
12. Richard Petty

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16026 "2013-04-26T15:06:37Z")

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Drivers Who Never (or, Haven’t) Won the Indy 500

1. Marco Andretti
2. Danica Patrick
3. Janet Guthrie
4. Me
5. Tony Stewart
6. Barney Oldfield
7. Michael Andretti
8. Speedracer
9. Shirley “Cha Cha” Muldowney
10. John Andretti
11. Bill Puterbaugh
12. Richard Petty
13. Joe Leonard

Who, unlike several of the people posted, actually competed in the Indy 500.

New category: Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16027 "2013-04-26T15:15:50Z")

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New category: Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham

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### Author: ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16028 "2013-04-26T15:21:00Z")

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Is anybody else but me really hoping right about now that this isn’t starting a long spate of \<_sport_\> \<_position or job_\>s who never \<_did important sports-related thing_\> topics?

Or is it just me? 😃

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### Author: ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16029 "2013-04-26T16:12:24Z")

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New category: Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon

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### Author: ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16030 "2013-04-26T17:10:54Z")

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New category: Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino

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### Author: ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16031 "2013-04-26T18:10:41Z")

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New category: Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts; I prefer to name guys who COULD have won Super Bowls (but didn’t), before getting around to old-timers

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16032 "2013-04-26T18:30:56Z")

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Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16033 "2013-04-26T18:32:44Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I prefer to name guys who COULD have won Super Bowls (but didn’t), before getting around to old-timers

I agree. It should be QB’s in the Super Bowl era.

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### Author: ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16034 "2013-04-26T19:28:59Z")

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Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Sonny Jurgensen (we’re running out of modern era guys… we may have to look to old-timers now)

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### Author: ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16035 "2013-04-26T23:59:12Z")

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Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Sonny Jurgensen (we’re running out of modern era guys… we may have to look to old-timers now)
8. Y.A. Tittle

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16036 "2013-04-27T00:27:01Z")

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Okay, when I thought of this category, I thought of around four people that would qualify and I just sort of assumed there were enough others that would fill the category. But I was wrong. Blanda’s probably the last one.

So:

Top retired NFL quarterbacks who played in the Super Bowl era but never won a Super Bowl.

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Sonny Jurgensen
8. Y.A. Tittle
9. George Blanda

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### Author: ![T\_Baggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@T\_Baggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T_Baggins)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16037 "2013-04-27T01:04:19Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Drivers Who Never (or, Haven’t) Won the Indy 500
> 
> 1. Marco Andretti
> 2. Danica Patrick
> 3. Janet Guthrie
> 4. Me
> 5. Tony Stewart
> 6. Barney Oldfield
> 7. Michael Andretti
> 8. Speedracer
> 9. Shirley “Cha Cha” Muldowney
> 10. John Andretti
> 11. Bill Puterbaugh
> 12. Richard Petty
> 13. Joe Leonard
> 
> Who, unlike several of the people posted, actually competed in the Indy 500.
> 
> New category: Hall of Fame NFL quarterbacks who never won a Super Bowl
> 
> 1. Jim Kelly

Ahhh… the question didn’t specify the driver had to even be IN the Indy 500, just that they didn’t win it.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16038 "2013-04-27T01:44:47Z")

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Top retired NFL quarterbacks who played in the Super Bowl era but never won a Super Bowl.

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Sonny Jurgensen
8. Y.A. Tittle
9. George Blanda
10. Ken O’Brien

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16039 "2013-04-27T01:56:31Z")

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Top retired NFL quarterbacks who played in the Super Bowl era but never won a Super Bowl.

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Sonny Jurgensen
8. Y.A. Tittle
9. George Blanda
10. Ken O’Brien
11. Craig Morton

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16040 "2013-04-27T03:42:32Z")

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Top retired NFL quarterbacks who played in the Super Bowl era but never won a Super Bowl.

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Sonny Jurgensen
8. Y.A. Tittle
9. George Blanda
10. Ken O’Brien
11. Craig Morton
12. Daryle Lamonica

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### Author: ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16041 "2013-04-27T04:44:27Z")

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Top retired NFL quarterbacks who played in the Super Bowl era but never won a Super Bowl.

1. Jim Kelly
2. Otto Graham
3. Warren Moon
4. Dan Marino
5. Dan Fouts
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Sonny Jurgensen
8. Y.A. Tittle
9. George Blanda
10. Ken O’Brien
11. Craig Morton
12. Daryle Lamonica
13. Ken Anderson (who SHOULD be a Hall of Famer)

New topic: TV shows about spies/secret agents

1. The Avengers

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